Accuracy of S&W barrels

[Angel Eyes]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=18644572#post18644572

My wife and I really want to talk to S&W about the accuracy of their barrels. When this one went flying down range, it completely missed a 3' x 5' target.

Lots of other good snark at the link.

Has anyone on this forum experienced a ballistic barrel?

[AJ Dual]

(snerk...)

[Fly320s]

Using a revolver?  There's your problem.

[MechAg94]

Smith and Wesson has gone downhill since the 1850's.   

[Angel Eyes]

Using a revolver?  There's your problem.

Smith and Wesson has gone downhill since the 1850's.   

Preach on, brother.

[seeker_two]

Smith and Wesson has gone downhill since the 1850's.  

Guess you're still packing your Volcanics, right?

[230RN]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=18644572#post18644572

Not logged in.  Can't view pics.  So the heck with it.

However, as I once told my sons about handguns... zero sight radius = zero accuracy.  You do the geometry.

<pause>

But just to save you the trouble of booting up your CAD software to solve this...

At, say, 50 yards (1800 inches), a nice compromise distance for both handgun and long arm ranges, a .005" absolute error in sighting results in X, where X is the unknown error in impact point...

For a 6" sight radius:

.005"  is to 6" as X is to 1800"

(.005" x 1800") ÷ 6" = X, a miss by 1.5 inches

For an 18" sight radius:

.005"  is to 18" as X is to 1800"

(.005" x 1800") ÷ 18" = X, a miss by 0.5 inches.

If my arithmetic is correct.

This, completely apart from the sight wobble, flinch, and grip errors of a handgun versus a rifle.  To judge comparative accuracies of firearms or their barrels, one needs a steady rest and no sighting at all.  Just clamp the thing down and see how it groups over N shots. Which is why Ransom Rests are on the market.

And for them revolvolator thingies, one should use the same chamber for each shot.

Terry, 230RN

REFs:
http://ransomrest.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchrest_rifle

[MechAg94]

Guess you're still packing your Volcanics, right?

There was comment on the calguns sight saying they went downhill since the 1960's.  I figured that was too recent so I had to look up when S&W was founded. 

[Mannlicher]

opinions are like bosses and aholes.  We all have one.  :)

I like S&W revolvers, and have a bunch of 'em.  Most are very accurate indeed.  This old Model 63 is easily minute of squirrel accurate.

[mtnbkr]

opinions are like bosses and aholes.  We all have one.  :)

I like S&W revolvers, and have a bunch of 'em.  Most are very accurate indeed.  This old Model 63 is easily minute of squirrel accurate.

Did you read the OP?  I'm guessing not or you'd realize your post was irrelevant. :)

Chris

[Mannlicher]

Did you read the OP?  I'm guessing not or you'd realize your post was irrelevant. :)

Chris

don't be ridiculous.  All my posts are relevant.  lol

[Perd Hapley]

Don't mind mtnbkr. He is a well-known S&W-hater. He only carries and shoots FN Five-SeveNs, and piston-driven ARs in .300 Blackout.

Everyone knows this.

[mtnbkr]

Don't mind mtnbkr. He is a well-known S&W-hater. He only carries and shoots FN Five-SeveNs, and piston-driven ARs in .300 Blackout.

Everyone knows this.

You just made my K32 cry.

Chris

[Firethorn]

Not logged in.  Can't view pics.  So the heck with it.

I was going to ask, do we have any members of calguns who are willing to rehost the pics?

[230RN]

^ Ditto. 

My post was irrelevant, too.

[MechAg94]

opinions are like bosses and aholes.  We all have one.  :)

I like S&W revolvers, and have a bunch of 'em.  Most are very accurate indeed.  This old Model 63 is easily minute of squirrel accurate.

So did you plant the pistol next to the squirrel or did they actually find its paw prints and powder residue?  Always a sad story even in the wild. 

[Firethorn]

So did you plant the pistol next to the squirrel or did they actually find its paw prints and powder residue?  Always a sad story even in the wild. 

Mannlicher managed to plug the ruffian before he could fire.

[Bob F.]

WE had a Mod 69 in the shop. Excellent "woods gun" in my opinion. $ shot  by a super revolver shooter and accuracy went down the tubes, way down! Unbelievable leading with cast bullets. Firelapped the bbl and got great accuracy. From the factory, rifling looked like it had been cut with a chainsaw.

[HeroHog]

opinions are like bosses and aholes.  We all have one.  :)

I like S&W revolvers, and have a bunch of 'em.  Most are very accurate indeed.  This old Model 63 is easily minute of squirrel accurate.

I liked coon hunting at night with dad's 10-8. These were head shots out of trees.