Is this the end for Trump?

[Chester32141]

If you look at photos from Hillary's rare campaign events it would appear that Hillary has trouble filling a church or a high school gymnasium ... Trump routinely turns out 20,000+ a week to his events ... could it be that the media is fudging just a little w/ the polls to make a fraudulent win by Hillary believable to all that aren't paying attention to her lack of visible supporters ?  

 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

If you look at photos from Hillary's rare campaign events it would appear that Hillary has trouble filling a church or a high school gymnasium ... Trump routinely turns out 20,000+ a week to his events ... could it be that the media is fudging just a little w/ the polls to make a fraudulent win by Hillary believable to all that aren't paying attention to her lack of visible supporters ?  

 

Too bad that doesn't count at polls

Hillary could die and she might still win.
Trump is THATS bad a candidate

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[De Selby]

Too bad that doesn't count at polls

Hillary could die and she might still win.
Trump is THATS bad a candidate

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In the same way that some Trumpers think the tapes don't matter, this is political fantasy

Trump is the strongest candidate the Republican Party has fielded since Reagan.  That he's doing it despite universal negative coverage and active opposition from all of his own party leadership is even more remarkable.

Trump managed to grasp a moment with voters, and that's his power base.  Not interest groups.  That's why he hasn't been totally destroyed.

[Pb]

Oh look, more oceans of sleaze being poured all over Trump, including making comments to a 10 year old.

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/bombshell-trump-accusers-coming-forward?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im

It would have been nice for the media to report stuff like this before the Trump conned the voters in the primary.  But, of course, we know why they didn't.  This is revolting, he reminds me of Bill Clinton.

[Fitz]

Oh look, more oceans of sleaze being poured all over Trump, including making comments to a 10 year old.

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/bombshell-trump-accusers-coming-forward?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im

It would have been nice for the media to report stuff like this before the Trump conned the voters in the primary.  But, of course, we know why they didn't.  This is revolting, he reminds me of Bill Clinton.

The worst part is people didn't think sleazy things would come out about him

[41magsnub]

The worst part is people didn't think sleazy things would come out about him

That is what blows my mind.  Trump has been a sleazy POS his entire (overly) public life.  He runs for president and suddenly he is one of us?

[makattak]

That is what blows my mind.  Trump has been a sleazy POS his entire (overly) public life.  He runs for president and suddenly he is one of us?

No. They think a sleazy con-man is the best way to stick it to the existing order.

[41magsnub]

No. They think a sleazy con-man is the best way to stick it to the existing order.

fair point

[Fitz]

No. They think a sleazy con-man is the best way to stick it to the existing order.

They've had every opportunity to do that with non-sleazy people

[makattak]

They've had every opportunity to do that with non-sleazy people

Yes, but Cruz is scary and sounds like a preacher and Ron Paul is nutty. Wait, it was his son running? Oh, well, I'm sure he's nutty, too.

[Ben]

They've had every opportunity to do that with non-sleazy people

But none of them were reality TV stars!!!

[Fitz]

Yes, but Cruz is scary and sounds like a preacher and Ron Paul is nutty. Wait, it was his son running? Oh, well, I'm sure he's nutty, too.

Ah yes, ron paul and rand are nutty!

Good thing they didn't get nominated, and that totally sane and stable guy got nominated instead!

[TommyGunn]

Is this the end for Trump?

In a word:  YES.

[Monkeyleg]

Right now I put the odds of the Trump groping stories being true at 50-50. If the story had broken six months or a year ago, I would have almost certainly believed it. Less than four weeks before the election? Uh, maybe not.

As for the "conclusions" of the FBI and "the intelligence community" that the Wikileaks stories came from the Russians, I seem to recall that the FBI appeared to have been compromised early this year. And "intelligence community" is a pretty vague term, and could even mean the janitor at Langley. If it were the CIA director, I'd give the story 50-50 odds.

Our government is now corrupt at every level and in every agency.

[41magsnub]

I agree on the 50/50 likelihood of truth on the recent allegations.  However, we all know the DNC has been hanging on to the videos and almost certainly has more dirt to keep dropping as we lead up to the election.  Only a moron would have though otherwise given that it's Trump. 

[roo_ster]

1. If you think any of the other GOPers in the primary would have done as well, I think you are mistaken. 

2. Every GOP candidate, once he takes the nomination, is portrayed as a racist woman-hating Hitler. 

3. Trump is willing to fight back in a way no GOPer has ever done.  Jeb/Paul/Cruz/Kasich don't have it in them, the same way Romney and McCain didn't, and would lose as they did.  Pining for the GOP nancy-boys is a fool's errand

4. Were Hillary in a good spot, she would not need to drop all these.  As it was in 2012, the winner will be determined by turnout.  These revelations are meant to whip up the faithful, not convince the undecided.  If they do not exist in sufficient quantity or luridity, they get made up or blown up.

5. Where are all these Trump voters that thought he was pure as the driven snow?  I mean, outside of some folk's imaginations.

6. I doubt the veracity of the recent claims, for reasons similar to the reasons why I doubted the Duke fraternity gang-rape allegations.  And that someone of Trump's status will never lack for hordes of willing women ready to throw themselves at him.

[lupinus]

But none of them were reality TV stars!!!

And none of them promised hope and change to make America great again!


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[makattak]

4. Were Hillary in a good spot, she would not need to drop all these.  

It may not be how Trump is doing now, but it might be preemptive because they believe Wikileaks has something actually damaging to reveal. (Because so far, no one seems to care about massive corruption, hubris, disdain, and pay-to-play.)

I'm not advocating that as the case, I'm just tossing our out possibilities.


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[roo_ster]

It may not be how Trump is doing now, but it might be preemptive because they believe Wikileaks has something actually damaging to reveal. (Because so far, no one seems to care about massive corruption, hubris, disdain, and pay-to-play.)

I'm not advocating that as the case, I'm just tossing our possibilities.

Very possible.

[Ben]

(Because so far, no one seems to care about massive corruption, hubris, disdain, and pay-to-play.)

I'm not advocating that as the case, I'm just tossing our out possibilities.


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Because moron voters think boorish behavior is 1000x more serious than committing felonies, laundering money, sending innocent people to prison in a Benghazi political shuffle, or any other serious crimes, many of which put the entire country at risk.

SJWism, political correctness, and hurt feelings are much more important.

[makattak]

Because moron voters think boorish behavior is 1000x more serious than committing felonies, laundering money, sending innocent people to prison in a Benghazi political shuffle, or any other serious crimes, many of which put the entire country at risk.

SJWism, political correctness, and hurt feelings are much more important.

Related:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/12/genders-divided-over-trump-in-the-us---if-only-men-voted-donald/





That's just scary, actually.

[roo_ster]

Related:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/12/genders-divided-over-trump-in-the-us---if-only-men-voted-donald/





That's just scary, actually.

What is even more interesting: The married woman vs unmarried woman gap is LARGER than the man vs woman gap.

Something to chew on:
http://judgybitch.com/2016/09/16/skin-in-the-game-more-thoughts-on-women-and-voting/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrjn24hwos4

[Perd Hapley]

What is even more interesting: The married woman vs unmarried woman gap is LARGER than the man vs woman gap.

Something to chew on:
http://judgybitch.com/2016/09/16/skin-in-the-game-more-thoughts-on-women-and-voting/

Man, that article is hilarious. But, yeah, the married/unmarried chick voting pattern has been known for a while. More proof that gender is not real, and men and women are exactly the same, of course.

[wmenorr67]

So basically men need to tell their womenfolk to stay home on election day.

[Pb]

1. If you think any of the other GOPers in the primary would have done as well, I think you are mistaken. 

2. Every GOP candidate, once he takes the nomination, is portrayed as a racist woman-hating Hitler. 

3. Trump is willing to fight back in a way no GOPer has ever done.  Jeb/Paul/Cruz/Kasich don't have it in them, the same way Romney and McCain didn't, and would lose as they did.  Pining for the GOP nancy-boys is a fool's errand

4. Were Hillary in a good spot, she would not need to drop all these.  As it was in 2012, the winner will be determined by turnout.  These revelations are meant to whip up the faithful, not convince the undecided.  If they do not exist in sufficient quantity or luridity, they get made up or blown up.

5. Where are all these Trump voters that thought he was pure as the driven snow?  I mean, outside of some folk's imaginations.

6. I doubt the veracity of the recent claims, for reasons similar to the reasons why I doubted the Duke fraternity gang-rape allegations.  And that someone of Trump's status will never lack for hordes of willing women ready to throw themselves at him.

I think we could have found a candidate that wouldn't make sexual comments about ten year old girls and wouldn't sexually assault women like Bill Clinton.