I'm floored......

[T.O.M.]

Local news here in Ohio featuring Democrats complaining that the people in Cleveland did not come out in the numbers they expected,  so they couldn't overcome the "uneducated white male vote" in the rural areas.  Should be an interesting day around the Courthouse.

[K Frame]

Absolutely gobsmacked that Pennsylvania went Republican. First time since the 1980s.

Hillary not addressing her supporters is chickenshit.

I NEVER thought this would happen.

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[K Frame]

Anyone check out Democratic Underground?

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[RoadKingLarry]

Anyone check out Democratic Underground?

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Yeah, nobody else can either

[lupinus]

Absolutely gobsmacked that Pennsylvania went Republican. First time since the 1980s.

Hillary not addressing her supporters is chickenshit.

I NEVER thought this would happen.

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Probably was making her way to the airport 

[wmenorr67]

Saw as of now Hillary is leading in the popular vote, 59,164,943 vs 59,029,272.

[makattak]

Looking at Fox this morning at 0600, Trump is ahead by less than 100k votes in the popular vote.
This may be another occasion where the Electoral College and the popular vote is way out of sync.
In any event, I am happily planning my dinner menu, of which the main course will be heaping platters of crow marinated in gobsmack.

On Google, they have him behind by just over 100K in the popular vote.

[Perd Hapley]

My dad has voted Constitution Party since 2004, but he got on the Trump train a while ago, even putting a Trump yard sign in the back glass of his Buick. I should have known, if Trump could bring people like him back into the fold, he could win.

[Calumus]

Probably was making her way to the airport 

I'm guessing Argentina...

[Ben]

It's funny, because I think a lot of people are in my boat in that Trump is not "my candidate", but I'm gloating.

I've never gloated after an election. Even when I was in a fed.gov office in 2000 where only three of us were conservatives. I felt it better to work with people than throw it in their faces. But you know what? All through the Bush years I heard the "not my President" crap from those same people. All through the Obama years, they played the "we won, you lost, suck it!" game.

I think a lot of people experienced that, and a lot of people got sick of it. So even if Trump isn't our candidate, he's the vehicle of us saying "STFU!!!"

So I'm gloating. I'm gloating about Democratic Underground being offline and it being a "Trump plot". I'm gloating about the Canadian Immigration site being overwhelmed to the point of breaking. I'm gloating that all the MSM outlets that attempted to influence the election because they "knew better" than me are in a spiral. I'm especially gloating because of the reactions of all the "celebrities" who thought they were speaking for "the majority of Americans".

And now the "not my President" stuff is starting all over again. All the people who would have, if Clinton won, told all of us Neanderthals to STFU because we lost and they won, that it's not our world anymore, are now doing exactly what they tell us we're not allowed to do. Something you don't generally see when the roles are reversed. So they all can STFU - I'm gloating.  

[Perd Hapley]

It's funny, because I think a lot of people are in my boat in that Trump is not "my candidate", but I'm gloating.

Gloat, nothin'. I'm incredibly relieved that someone like Hillary Clinton could not, after all, win election in the current United States of America. As my dad put it, God's given us a reprieve. There may be hope for this country, after all.


I am, however, thinking about going down that queer lives matter coffeeshop in St. Louis, just to enjoy all the sad. 

[Hawkmoon]

Didn't the Clinton camp attack Trump for saying he wouldn't rule out contesting the results?

Rather forcefully, IIRC.

[Kingcreek]

Hillary not addressing her supporters is chickenshit.

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Not really. They were all drunk by 9pm and for all I know, she was too.

[wmenorr67]

It isn't that this country isn't ready for a woman president either.  Just give us one that is worthy of being president.  We need an American Margaret Thatcher or hell Madeleine Albright.  Actually a shame that she couldn't have been POTUS if the need had came up.

[Hawkmoon]

Gloat, nothin'. I'm incredibly relieved that someone like Hillary Clinton could not, after all, win buy and cheat her way to an election in the current United States of America.

Fixed it for you.

As my dad put it, God's given us a reprieve. There may be hope for this country, after all.

My sentiments [almost] exactly. As the voting started, I found myself wishing on a star and telling myself that, if people get the government they deserve, the United States couldn't possibly be so far gone that we actually deserve someone like HRC.

[makattak]

... Oh, I just had a delicious thought...


What are the Clinton's going to do now when all the companies and countries that paid her for favorable treatment come back looking for a return on their investment?

I know, they are probably going to just write it off as a loss, but I can dream, right?

[Hawkmoon]

Google says Trump has 276. Networks aren't saying.

WAPO echoes 276.

09:35 a.m. NYT is still saying Trump 305, HRC 233. Same thing they were predicting when I went to bed last night.

[Hawkmoon]

Local news here in Ohio featuring Democrats complaining that the people in Cleveland did not come out in the numbers they expected,  so they couldn't overcome the "uneducated white male vote" in the rural areas.  Should be an interesting day around the Courthouse.

Read between the lines. Translation: "WE didn't get enough dead people and illegals to vote as we needed."

[makattak]

Read between the lines. Translation: "WE didn't get enough dead people and illegals to vote as we needed."

Although that is also the case, the problem is that Obama brought out a FAR higher percentage of the black vote than any other candidate will likely ever be able to do.

Without that record turnout, the polls were off (because they used 2012 as a baseline). The Democrats thought that they just had the black vote locked up like Obama did forever.

[T.O.M.]

Although that is also the case, the problem is that Obama brought out a FAR higher percentage of the black vote than any other candidate will likely ever be able to do.

Without that record turnout, the polls were off (because they used 2012 as a baseline). The Democrats thought that they just had the black vote locked up like Obama did forever.

And, at least here in Ohio, the Dems all but ignored the rural areas, thinking that carrying the big cities would mean enough votes to secure the electoral votes.  Got that one wrong.  Hubris precedes the fall...

[Perd Hapley]

The Democrats thought that they just had the black vote locked up like Obama did forever.

I recall predicting that the Democratic Party would stick with the brown guy formula, having been so successful (electorally) with Obama. It looks like I was smarter than they were.

The Dem's can only blame themselves. They phoned this thing in, picking a candidate because it was her turn, and figuring people would vote for her because girl. Sorry, but women are not a monolithic voting bloc, as black Americans disgracefully choose to be. And identity politics is apparently not strong enough to overcome negatives as high as Clinton's.

[T.O.M.]

I recall predicting that the Democratic Party would stick with the brown guy formula, having been so successful (electorally) with Obama. It looks like I was smarter than they were.

The Dem's can only blame themselves. They phoned this thing in, picking a candidate because it was her turn, and figuring people would vote for her because girl. Sorry, but women are not a monolithic voting bloc, as black Americans disgracefully choose to be. And identity politics is apparently not strong enough to overcome negatives as high as Clinton's.

Oh, I'm hearing cries of "sexist America" echoing through the hallways.  I want to scream back that this wasn't an anti-woman vote, it was an anti-Hillary vote, and there is a significant and very important difference.  Hillary didn't lose because she's a woman.  She lost because she's Hillary, with all of the baggage that comes with it.

[Ben]

Fascinating (to me) is that I just saw that Trump took over 80% of the evangelical vote. Despite all the stuff that came out about his essentially unchristian and immoral past behavior, they still thought, overwhelmingly, that he would be better than Clinton.

I think that's more of a statement about Clinton than Trump. This is really reinforcing my theory that Trump is basically a "widget" representing absolute dissatisfaction with status quo.

[Kingcreek]

Fascinating (to me) is that I just saw that Trump took over 80% of the evangelical vote. Despite all the stuff that came out about his essentially unchristian and immoral past behavior, they still thought, overwhelmingly, that he would be better than Clinton.

I think that's more of a statement about Clinton than Trump. This is really reinforcing my theory that Trump is basically a "widget" representing absolute dissatisfaction with status quo.

I think a lot of that is the confidence those folks have in Pence. I think Pence brought votes to Trump. I don't think Kaine brought votes to Hillary.

[Ben]

Without that record turnout, the polls were off (because they used 2012 as a baseline). The Democrats thought that they just had the black vote locked up like Obama did forever.

This is where I thought Trump used a brilliant strategy. The dems figured they had the black and hispanic vote locked, and that those groups are monolithic voters. His, "What have you got to lose?" strategy worked.