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The "fake news" meme
« on: December 08, 2016, 02:36:00 AM »
Have anyone else besides me seen this being talked about in the last week or so? Seems like all of a sudden, every newspaper and channel is pushing this idea, along with Facebook & Google saying they will implement ways to ensure only True News are being indexed in search engines/shared on Facebook. I'm sure that they will be 100% objective in deciding which news are fake.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2016, 04:25:09 AM »
Quote from: Viking on December 08, 2016, 02:36:00 AM
Have anyone else besides me seen this being talked about in the last week or so? Seems like all of a sudden, every newspaper and channel is pushing this idea, along with Facebook & Google saying they will implement ways to ensure only True News are being indexed in search engines/shared on Facebook. I'm sure that they will be 100% objective in deciding which news are fake.

It's the narrative that the D's are trying to push in order to explain Hillary's defeat. The MSN is happy to go along with it both because they're Democrats with bylines, and because it attacks their new media competitors.

It's gotten so bad White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest had to explain the First Amendment to the Press Corps during a briefing because they were pushing the White House to crack down on "fake news" sites. Talk about a roll reversal....

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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2016, 05:01:01 AM »
Ummm, yeah.  Now what are they gonna do about "slanted news" from the professional left-mongers.  You think they'll go that far?

Interesting that the first I've heard of this is from a foreign source... thanks, Viking.  (Not that I'm absolutely up-to-date on every news tidbit.)

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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2016, 07:00:27 AM »
Fake news has been around for a while . . .

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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2016, 07:14:08 AM »
The fake news club exists only to beat news sources outside the msm and not bejolden to the Narrative.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2016, 07:57:38 AM »
So many 1984 quotes come to mind:

“We do not merely destroy our enemies; we change them.”
“It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.”
"Ignorance is strength.”
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2016, 08:16:18 AM »
Quote from: HankB on December 08, 2016, 07:00:27 AM
Fake news has been around for a while . . .



There is a difference in making a mistake and outright lying/manipulating the truth to fit an agenda.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2016, 02:49:05 PM »
Quote from: 230RN on December 08, 2016, 05:01:01 AM
Interesting that the first I've heard of this is from a foreign source... thanks, Viking.  (Not that I'm absolutely up-to-date on every news tidbit.)


"Fake news" has actually been a huge news story for the past few weeks.

I wish they'd been as outraged when Rather made up that story about Bush's National Guard Service. Or when no one called John Lewis an n-word. Or when Michael Brown had his hands up down. Or when George Zimmerman didn't racially profile. Or when semi-automatics were called "assault rifles." One could go on at some length.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2016, 02:52:38 PM »
When Hillary Clinton was not fired on by snipers.

When Hillary Clinton said she was named after a mountain climber.

When Sarah Palin was not actually confused about geography. (Both times.)

When Missouri gun law reforms did not actually cause a crime wave.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2016, 03:06:04 PM »
Why do they act like this is a new thing? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism and why can't we call it yellow journalism, since we've already got that term, instead of "fake news"?
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2016, 05:07:41 PM »
Quote from: Viking on December 08, 2016, 02:36:00 AM
Seems like all of a sudden, every newspaper and channel is pushing this idea, along with Facebook & Google saying they will implement ways to ensure only True News are being indexed in search engines/shared on Facebook.

Facebook can't even stop the "if 3,928,417.6 people share this post Zuckerberg is going to give us each a Ferrari and the formula to cure cancer in quadriplegic orphans" posts.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2016, 11:29:56 PM »
Well, of course I know that "yellow journalism" has been around since before Hearst, but this is the first time I've heard the "fake news" term applied to alternative net sources.  It sounds like a recent invention of the left to control the language.

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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2016, 03:11:52 AM »
Quote from: KD5NRH on December 08, 2016, 05:07:41 PM
Facebook can't even stop the "if 3,928,417.6 people share this post Zuckerberg is going to give us each a Ferrari and the formula to cure cancer in quadriplegic orphans" posts.

That's because the left that go out and infiltrate and patrol groups doesn't care about things like that.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2016, 05:12:40 AM »
Anything that helps their side = Fair and Balanced truthful journalists doing their jobs. Flat out lies and manipulation to make the left look good? That's just what it takes to get the job done

Anything that doesn't jive with the leftist narritive (I.e. the actual truth) = Fake news manipulated by the Koch brothers.

That's all you need to know
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2016, 01:10:28 PM »
Quote from: Boomhauer on December 09, 2016, 05:12:40 AM
Anything that doesn't jive with the leftist narritive (I.e. the actual truth) = Fake news manipulated by the Koch brothers.

That's all you need to know

Except that the Koch brothers are opposing border security and deportation of illegal aliens., so it's hard for me to figure out just what they are or what (if anything) they stand for -- except, of course, more profits for the Kocj brothers.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2016, 01:33:23 PM »
I like the term used in the comments here:

http://twitchy.com/loriz-3139/2016/12/09/journo-pushes-lie-about-trump-supporters-the-schooling-that-came-next-will-crack-you-up/

"Retraction journalism". Say anything you want, then retract it sometime later in a hard to read place. Damage done. The example at the link says it all, especially looking at the "retweet" comparison.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2016, 07:57:50 PM »
Somebody help me, please. I just heard some clips on my car radio, of Brian Williams - yes, Brian. Williams. - complaining about various people spreading "fake news." Someone please tell me that's just a clever compilation of sound bytes, and he didn't really broach that topic.

No, wait. Don't tell me that. Watching the state-controlled media beclown themselves to this extent is just hilarious.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2016, 08:16:04 PM »
Quote from: fistful on December 09, 2016, 07:57:50 PM
Somebody help me, please. I just heard some clips on my car radio, of Brian Williams - yes, Brian. Williams. - complaining about various people spreading "fake news." Someone please tell me that's just a clever compilation of sound bytes, and he didn't really broach that topic.

No, wait. Don't tell me that. Watching the state-controlled media beclown themselves to this extent is just hilarious.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4018664/Former-NBC-Nightly-News-host-Brian-Williams-complains-fake-news.html
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2016, 09:11:41 PM »
Glenn Greenwald has a pretty good post about this up at The Intercept:

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/?comments=1#comments

He goes into detail about how MSNBC in particular spread fake news, yet is one of the biggest decriers of it.
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2016, 10:51:53 PM »
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2016, 09:55:04 AM »
Even Dan Rather opined about fake news, and he oughta know..
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2016, 10:46:22 AM »
Quote from: wuluf on December 10, 2016, 09:55:04 AM
Even Dan Rather opined about fake news, and he oughta know..
Ah, yes, he used forged documents from a dead man in an attempt to influence a national election.

And then there was Tom Brokaw at NBC whose report about exploding GMC pickups included video of a burning truck his minions at NBC had clandestinely rigged with an incendiary device . . .
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2016, 11:09:17 AM »
Quote from: HankB on December 10, 2016, 10:46:22 AM
Ah, yes, he used forged documents from a dead man in an attempt to influence a national election.

And then there was Tom Brokaw at NBC whose report about exploding GMC pickups included video of a burning truck his minions at NBC had clandestinely rigged with an incendiary device . . .


Curse you, Breitbart, for making them do that!!
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2016, 01:10:44 PM »
It seems to me that Facebook and Google open themselves up to lawsuits if they actively try to purge news from their sites and searches.  It could be seen as inhibiting free speech since the sites are otherwise wide open.  At the least, it opens them up to regulation by the fedgov.  In addition, if people notice their information being filtered, they will switch to other search engines and sites.  I am not sure which is more likely to occur. 

It would be interesting for a lawsuit to get far enough to allow discovery against Google. 
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Re: The "fake news" meme
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2016, 01:22:48 PM »
Yeah, I don't really rely on the book of faces to get my daily news.
For me it is just entertainment, watching the family members and friends bemoaning the state of their drama laden lives and reposting political memes to cause liberal butthurt makes my day.
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