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Whiskey
« on: December 10, 2016, 10:36:44 PM »
I do not myself drink distilled beverages, but I want to buy my boss some expensive whiskey. Something he might not buy himself because it's too expensive. Is there a gold standard expensive whiskey that is worth it and not just expensive because of all marketing?
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2016, 10:54:20 PM »
Is your boss a whiskey drinker? I ask because there's whiskey, then there's whiskey, then there's whiskey. Then there's even whisky.

Is he a bourbon drinker? Rye? Scotch?

If Scotch, you could buy him a $75 bottle of Lagavulin (an excellent Islay Scotch), but if he only likes Highland Scotch, it'll be a wasted $75 and you would have been better off buying him a $20 of cheap Highland Scotch.

Not trying to be a stick in the mud, but I'd hate to see you throw out a Benjamin and have your boss say, "well, it's the thought that counts". If you have some idea of what he likes, let us know and we'll come up with suggestions.
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2016, 11:03:32 PM »
A very good whiskey IMHO* that's not too expensive is Elijah Craig small batch bourbon.  I don't remember how many years it's aged, 11? 

*I am not known for my taste is whiskeys, but I have given bottles of EC before and it's always been appreciated.
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 11:05:54 PM »
At COSTCO there's a 12 Days of Whisky box, it's like an advent calendar for alcoholics.

Give him that, and when he mentions which one he liked the most, get him a bottle of that. 
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 11:09:06 PM »
And what is "expensive"?  An expensive bourbon is $50 (and a waste IMO), but an expensive Scotch will start at 100+ and go up from there.  

Then, there is EXPENSIVE, where you're looking at nosebleed prices for bottles of Pappy Van Winkle.  Those are for the nouveau riche and collectors.

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 11:14:25 PM »
I was thinking $50-100
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2016, 11:30:03 PM »
That's entry level for single malt Scotch (well, high-entry-level), but will get a quality bourbon or rye.  However, in Scotch alone, you have multiple distinct types, not including blends of which there are numerous examples.

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2016, 11:46:02 PM »
I was thinking $50-100

So any idea of what he likes? Has he ever mentioned a type or brand around you?
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2016, 12:01:51 AM »
How much for just a bottle and some ribbon paper to make it look like it hasn't been opened?

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2016, 12:05:40 AM »
Yeah, you'll need to narrow it down to at least a type.  Then we can give some suggestions.

FWIW:

Scotch:  Highland park is good for getting some smoke and peat flavor without overpowering folks.  Technically a Highland scotch but on the flavorful end.  Get one of the 18ish YO singles.  Anything Talisker is always a safe bet for a good drinkable scotch.

Bourbon: Makers mark is kind of a standard, decent bottle, but I actually like Knob Creek a little better.  Jefferson's is also pretty good.  I had a bottle of the Jefferon's Ocean that was the best bourbon I've ever head, but it's sometimes hard to find.)

Rye:  I've enjoyed Bulleit but I'm not a super fan of Ryes.

Can't help you with Tennessee and Irish whiskey's.

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2016, 12:26:53 AM »
For Irish whiskey, the choice is Redbreast 12 year.
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2016, 12:45:57 AM »
This might be a liiiittle bit out of your price range, but since it is at the airport, Narita International Airport, it's tax free.  =D Plus our exchange rate has been getting better.

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2016, 01:21:19 AM »
Forgot about Irish whiskey.  Don't forget Japanese whiskey.

There are also wheat whiskeys, which tend to be very soft and smooth.

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2016, 01:45:49 AM »
You definitely need to give us better direction on style of whisky.  The difference between bourbon and rye is big enough.  Scotch is whole other galaxy.  Within Scotch you have Single Malt and blended malts.  Within Single Malts you about half a dozen major regions that each give their own flavor profiles.

Price alone is a poor proxy for quality.

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2016, 05:45:35 AM »
The Balvenie doublewood 17.  Classy yet cheap!
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2016, 09:59:30 AM »
Well, if people are just going to throw out recommendations anyway, and you don't know what your boss likes...

My favorite whiskies over the last couple of years (excluding single malts) have been what High West Distillery puts out. If you don't know what your boss drinks, High West makes a whiskey called Campfire that is a blend of bourbon, rye, and scotch. It's about $60/bottle. I usually don't do blended whisky, but this one is my favorite weekend whiskey and probably my favorite High West in "bang for the buck". I find all the High West varieties great except the Rendezvous Rye. That doesn't seem to be just me from what I've read, so avoid that one if you go the High West route.

http://thewhiskeyjug.com/american-whiskey/high-west-campfire-review/

Also, I think all of us are assuming that your boss drinks his whiskey straight. If he's going to be making high balls, you can probably just get him some Jack Daniels at the grocery store.  =D
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2016, 09:39:34 PM »
Glemorangie Nectar D'or,  for the price range you mentioned and not knowing what he likes.  I'm horrible on describing booze,  but you'd have to drink a few to appreciate this.  Good stuff.   

https://www.glenmorangie.com/us/glenmorangie-nectar-dor


I second the Talisker recommendation if you think he'd be into something a bit harsher.
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2016, 08:44:02 AM »
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Bourbon: Makers mark is kind of a standard, decent bottle, but I actually like Knob Creek a little better.  Jefferson's is also pretty good.  I had a bottle of the Jefferon's Ocean that was the best bourbon I've ever head, but it's sometimes hard to find.)

Love that, have a bottle of it in the pantry currently and know where I can get more at a nice discount.

Another thing to take into account where are you and what is available.  Sometimes certain brands are only sold in specific regions.
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2016, 09:17:49 AM »
As others have said it really matters what he likes and what his purpose is with it.

Example: I really like Maker Mark 46. It's their slightly more expensive "elite" brand, I believe. I prefer it neat.

I also have a bottle of Bird Dog Blackberry whiskey. It's a bit too sweet for my taste to drink it straight. It's REALLY good in eggnog, though. I would NEVER use my 46 in a mixed drink though- it seems like such a waste.

So, is he a mixed drink guy or straight? Bourbon or Scotch?

IF he just likes whiskey and doesn't know, the sampler is a great idea.

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2016, 09:32:36 AM »
Forgot about Irish whiskey.  Don't forget Japanese whiskey.

There are also wheat whiskeys, which tend to be very soft and smooth.

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What's wrong with Irish whiskey, is it just overrated?  The only Irish I've had is "2 Gingers", and it's okay in highballs or as shots, but there's not much to it.  I don't know if it's representative of the style.  The only other Irish brand I know is Jameson's.
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2016, 09:43:00 AM »
What's wrong with Irish whiskey, is it just overrated?  The only Irish I've had is "2 Gingers", and it's okay in highballs or as shots, but there's not much to it.  I don't know if it's representative of the style.  The only other Irish brand I know is Jameson's.

Nothing's wrong with Irish whiskey.  My comment was that I forgot about it.

I actually like Irish whiskeys.  They tend to be milder and nuanced than other whiskeys (haven't tried Japanese).  They also go well in coffee, making them a perennial favorite at camp. :)

Jameson's isn't bad, but I prefer their more exclusive variations.  The basic version is a bit "meh".  For a cheap Irish whiskey, I like Tullamore DEW. 

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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2016, 10:13:25 AM »
I misread your post.  Thought you said "Forget about Irish whiskey"
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Re: Whiskey
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2016, 10:10:20 PM »
Basil Hayden's and Bookers are both excellent Bourbons made by the Jim Beam family. I think somewhat better than Maker's.

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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2016, 07:13:34 AM »
Can you find some good moonshine? It's not cheap but it will ruin you for taxed booze

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