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Things You Learn From Your Customers
« on: December 19, 2006, 01:03:19 PM »
I just had to share this one.

So I had two security guards walk into my shop today.  One of them had been before and I guess it was good enough for him to come back.  But the other one asked what kind of personal protection ammo I had.  I told him mostly Gold Dots because that seems to be what people like and they work well.  He told me he always used Federal Hydroshocks because "the bullet bounces around in the person's body and causes lots of damage."
Now, I have nothing against Hydroshocks and I am sure they work just fine but the fact that they "bounce around in the body" was a new one on me.
Same fellow also couldn't figure out that if his buddy has two 8-round magazines for his gun the maximum he can carry is 17 rounds.  He was sure it was 18--8 in the mag plus one in the chamber, times two.  I finally agreed with him.  There wasn't anything else to do.
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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2006, 01:07:09 PM »
Sometimes you just have to smile, take their money, let them get out the door, then roll your eyes and sigh, shake your head and laugh, or sit down and have a good cry (whichever is applicable).

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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 01:11:16 PM »
I would just nod & smile.

Most folks don't appreciate being relieved of their ignorance.
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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 01:17:25 PM »
Well, the security guards I'm familiar with aren't the brightest of individuals.
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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 01:22:21 PM »
I suppose you would have insulted him by handing him a calculator.

Don't know whose security he's responsible for, but I'm glad it's not mine.

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2006, 01:26:24 PM »
I suppose you would have insulted him by handing him a calculator.

Don't know whose security he's responsible for, but I'm glad it's not mine.
He actually reasoned it out as follows: if his buddy shoots someone until empty and then reloads, he will jack one in the chamber and then reload the one bullet in the magazine.  How could I argue with that logic?
I ended up selling his friend a cleaning kit and a box of Hornady TAP 200gr .45acp.  The TAP is also good ammo.  It just won't bounce around in a body like the Hydroshock does.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 01:36:31 PM »
"He actually reasoned it out as follows: if his buddy shoots someone until empty and then reloads, he will jack one in the chamber and then reload the one bullet in the magazine.  How could I argue with that logic?"

Well, maybe he figures it will be a leisurely shootout. Wink

As for the Hydra-Shok ammo, maybe he has it confused with the Hollywood ammo that makes people fly through the air.

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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2006, 01:58:41 PM »
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As for the Hydra-Shok ammo, maybe he has it confused with the Hollywood ammo that makes people fly through the air.

Isn't that the eeeeeeeeevil Black Talon ammo?

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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2006, 02:17:03 PM »
Rabbi, I work at a 911 call center.


You don't wanna know the geniuses that have managed to figure out that 9-1-1 is their personal salvation from all that is wrong in their lives.

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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2006, 02:25:45 PM »
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You don't wanna know the geniuses that have managed to figure out that 9-1-1 is their personal salvation from all that is wrong in their lives.

Let me guess ... it's the same group of folks that clog up the ER demanding attention "RIGHT NOW!" because their common cold is far more serious than the guy down the hall who's in cardiac arrest?

Or maybe they're just out of toilet paper and the roll needs changing...

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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2006, 02:55:07 PM »
Brad, exactly right....   As my name implies, I used to work the other side of the radio, so I was the one that got to go lights and sirens on their stubbed toe....

Yes.  911 for a stubbed toe.   

I dang near broke his foot for him when I got there.....

One of the things I discovered when I first started working EMS was that in most cases 911 worked against the betterment of the species.   In other words, we prevent too many deserving people from getting darwin awards..........


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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2006, 03:27:26 PM »
Don't expose customer ignorance; it's bad for business.

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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2006, 03:30:38 PM »
One of my customers assured me the Smith & Wesson J frame .357 magnum revolver with five-inch barrel was developed for the Navy SEALs because it was the only revolver in the world that would fire underwater.

Are you surprised to discover the guy is a mediocre shot?
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2006, 12:57:08 AM »
>Same fellow also couldn't figure out that if his buddy has two 8-round magazines for his gun the maximum he can carry is 17 rounds.  He was sure it was 18--8 in the mag plus one in the chamber, times two.  I finally agreed with him.  There wasn't anything else to do.<

Hmmm... sounds like that new math to me...

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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2006, 02:19:39 AM »
I suppose you would have insulted him by handing him a calculator.

Don't know whose security he's responsible for, but I'm glad it's not mine.
He actually reasoned it out as follows: if his buddy shoots someone until empty and then reloads, he will jack one in the chamber and then reload the one bullet in the magazine.  How could I argue with that logic?
I ended up selling his friend a cleaning kit and a box of Hornady TAP 200gr .45acp.  The TAP is also good ammo.  It just won't bounce around in a body like the Hydroshock does.

Did his name happen to be Barney Fife and keep a bullet in his pocket?
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2006, 02:31:13 AM »
My uncle the cop told me one time that the most dangerous person out there is a security guard with a gun.
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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2006, 03:16:14 AM »
many security guards are ex cops,  when I was in the biz I met lots of folks, some good some bad...like anywhere else.

As a San Francisco armed security guard I found that 99% of cops and management clueless when it came to the law in regards to armed security.

I had a high ranking SFPD tell me I couldn't open carry to work, I replied I'll be glad to stop when you issue
me a ccw...he frowned and said"...oh...uhhhh...well...ok"

Management said gold dot only, no fed hydrashok also no .45, when asked why they told me
"the hole in the front of the gun is to big"  also we were not allowed (per mgnt) to carry pepper spray or batons but were required to have certs for both.

The qualification course for armed guards at Jackson Arms in South SF is very good and the instructor Brian is a former federal LE and trains fed's as well....

Reeds range also gives a very intensive, informed course.

Some of the guys I used to work with were vets who spent a lot of time shooting at people who were shooting at them in Iraq.
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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2006, 03:33:33 AM »
many security guards are ex cops, 
And that's supposed to be reassuring?  shocked
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2006, 04:51:14 AM »
Rabbi, do you have any of those porcelain Glocks?  I'm flying out to Brooklyn to take possession of a bridge next week, and I need something I can get through the metal detector.   
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2006, 04:54:34 AM »
Rabbi, do you have any of those porcelain Glocks?  I'm flying out to Brooklyn to take possession of a bridge next week, and I need something I can get through the metal detector.   

But that;s a handgun.  You could shoot someone 3 or 4 times and they'll keep coming at you.  You need a .308.
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2006, 05:06:24 AM »
No, I'll take a .300 magnum, preferably in a single-shot take-down rifle.  Do you have trauma plates?  Duct tape?   
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Re: Things You Learn From Your Customers
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2006, 05:18:05 AM »
Rabbi, do you have any of those porcelain Glocks?  I'm flying out to Brooklyn to take possession of a bridge next week, and I need something I can get through the metal detector.   

You mean the Glock 7?  Those things cost more then you make in a month!