Daylight Savings Time

[Neemi]

I hate daylight savings. Three cranky children for a week isn't worth it. And trying to explain it to a kindergartener? He thinks it's just as dumb an idea as I do. Let's pick one time, stay there, and stop the time-hopping madness that makes children everywhere cranky.

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[wmenorr67]

All you whiners out there could just move to Arizona.

[Ben]

I hate daylight savings. Three cranky children for a week isn't worth it. And trying to explain it to a kindergartener? He thinks it's just as dumb an idea as I do. Let's pick one time, stay there, and stop the time-hopping madness that makes children everywhere cranky.

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This is one reason I really hate this end of it, especially since it starts like three weeks earlier than it used to. I'm a morning person, but also somewhat sun synchronous, so while I usually like getting up at 0500-0600, for about the next month, not so much, and sleeping in till 7am always makes me feel like I've blown part of my day. I'm also an "early to bed" guy, usually in the sack by 2200, so for most of July, that's also a little weird for me because it's only been dark for 1-1.5 hours or so at my latitude before I go to bed.

Then I came to my current company, and more and more I've been able to set my own hours over the years.

Currently I'm generally working 5:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m.

All my jobs have been "start early" jobs. Early on because they were blue collar and I had no choice. Later on I was also able to set my own schedule and was pretty close to yours Mike, as ideal for me. If I got in the office at 0600, it meant I had a couple of hours of peace to get most of my work for the day done, then around 0800 or so, when all the nitwits started coming into the office, I would be doing my stuff with DC, so had another couple of hours of not being bothered. :)

I have always been way less productive after lunch, so it was also nice to go home in the mid-afternoon and go for a run or whatever to re-energize. Sometimes I'd give myself enough of a boost to work from home for a couple of hours in the evening, which was basically free labor for fed.gov, so the boss never minded my schedule. :)

[zahc]

I know a guy with an autistic son, and for him, it's more like a month of hell. I wonder if we could use the ADA to kill DST.

Maybe Trump will kill DST. It would be a great legacy checkmark for future elementary school textbooks.

[Perd Hapley]

I know a guy with an autistic son, and for him, it's more like a month of hell. I wonder if we could use the ADA to kill DST.

Maybe Trump will kill DST. It would be a great legacy checkmark for future elementary school textbooks.

That, and build a wall to keep out those bums from that other time zone.

[Neemi]

My friend says the only way to repeal DST is to make the lawmakers teach preschool for a week after the time change. Then it'd die quickly.

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[230RN]

You folks want to see a hodge podge of times and dates, take a look at the International Date Line:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:International_Date_Line.png

And you can't blame the railroads for that. :D

Hawaii is another State which doesn't have DST.  I presume, without actually knowing, this is because they're only +20° off the equator and hey, watsa diff, brah?


I don't remember the exact numbers that used to be provided by the Division of Wildlife for Colorado, but they had a calculation in their hunting brochures for figuring 1/2 hour before sunrise and after sunset for legal hunting hours.  It was based on number of miles east or west of Denver.

Why, you could hear gunshots marching across the State from east to west every opening morning. <joke, not really, but almost.

Archery season, not so much.

Terry, 230RN

[Ben]

Hawaii is another State which doesn't have DST.  I presume, without actually knowing, this is because they're only +20° off the equator and hey, watsa diff, brah?

Yup. I've been there for extended periods throughout the year. I think the whole state is full of morning people, and during the Summer, you kinda want the damn sun to go down so you can have a pleasant and (slightly) cooler evening grilling linguica on the lanai. :)

But yeah, little change one way or the other.

[Scout26]

You folks want to see a hodge podge of times and dates, take a look at the International Date Line:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:International_Date_Line.png

And you can't blame the railroads for that. :D

Hawaii is another State which doesn't have DST.  I presume, without actually knowing, this is because they're only +20° off the equator and hey, watsa diff, brah?


I don't remember the exact numbers that used to be provided by the Division of Wildlife for Colorado, but they had a calculation in their hunting brochures for figuring 1/2 hour before sunrise and after sunset for legal hunting hours.  It was based on number of miles east or west of Denver.

Why, you could hear gunshots marching across the State from east to west every opening morning. <joke, not really, but almost.

Archery season, not so much.

Terry, 230RN

Illinois still does that, with the state divided into 3 E-W zones with each zone having it's own sunrise and sunset times. 

Page 44 if you are interested.  (They used to divide into 6 zones N-S and E-W).
https://www.dnr.illinois.gov/hunting/Documents/HuntTrapDigest.pdf

[230RN]

Illinois still does that, with the state divided into 3 E-W zones with each zone having it's own sunrise and sunset times.  

Page 44 if you are interested.  (They used to divide into 6 zones N-S and E-W).
https://www.dnr.illinois.gov/hunting/Documents/HuntTrapDigest.pdf

Wow, corrections for latitude as well as longitude.  I guess they're a bunch of tight-asses in IL.

Didn't do any calculations, Colorado being 387 miles wide, and at more or less +40° latitude, but I'm fairly sure the deer don't care much about the concept of "fair pursuit" versus the exact amount of daylight involved.

Sheesh!

And that "1/2 hour" is kind of arbitrary in the first place.  Why not 26 minutes and 37 seconds before and after sunrise and sunset?

Kinda makes me wonder how they would figure hunting hours above the Arctic Circle, eh?

Or if there were any deer at the North Pole.  

Terry, 230RN

[Jocassee]

I wish we would just go to daylight savings and STAY there. Instead of flipping back and forth. There is no reason we can't stay at UTC -5 (in south carolina) and most people would appreciate the extra sunlight in the evening during the winter.

[zahc]

I recently made a spreadsheet to calculate my timecard for crossing the date line. 14 time zones added plus 24 hours subtracted because of the date line; opposite coming back. Gov. regs state timecard must be kept for each day, even though one day vanished. I had one day well over 30 hours. Took me a while.

[230RN]

I recently made a spreadsheet to calculate my timecard for crossing the date line. 14 time zones added plus 24 hours subtracted because of the date line; opposite coming back. Gov. regs state timecard must be kept for each day, even though one day vanished. I had one day well over 30 hours. Took me a while.

That's a good one. Unintended consequences, eh?

I can envision the same kind of situation with respect to Arizona, if someone's work required traveling back and forth across the border to neighboring states.  But that would only involve hours, not days.  Also, come to think of it, if one worked across any U.S. time zone borders, daylight savings time or no daylight savings time.

[Hawkmoon]

Or if there were any deer at the North Pole.  

Don't even THINK about shooting Rudolph!

[Hawkmoon]

I wish we would just go to daylight savings and STAY there. Instead of flipping back and forth. There is no reason we can't stay at UTC -5 (in south carolina) and most people would appreciate the extra sunlight in the evening during the winter.

Ummm ...

South Carolina, last I knew, was in the eastern time zone. That's UTC -5 during standard time. During DST it's UTC -4.

[zahc]

NC is UTC-5 normally/in winter.

[Fly320s]

 Also, come to think of it, if one worked across any U.S. time zone borders, daylight savings time or no daylight savings time.

Crossing multiple time zones for work?  That seems..... normal.

[GigaBuist]

We generally have to work our start times around daylight, what with us being a greenhouse and all.  We have lights but try not to use them.  The DST change is big enough that we either have to move start time to 9AM or just turn on the lights.  We turned on the lights.

So there's 75,000 watts of sodium lamps that went on today in the name of conserving energy.

Most of my disdain for DST actually comes from my programming background. Timezones are bad enough but when you throw in rules for DST that vary by country and by year... I hate it so much.

[RoadKingLarry]

In 1985 I got to fly from Manila to Honolulu on the Navy's dime. Ship's Yeoman set me up good and booked me Pan Am Clipper Class. Almost 1st class but not quite. Only big downside was the 8 hour layover at Narita. Left Manila way early on a Sunday morning and checked in at Pearl Harbor around 1800, same date. Had to raise holy hell to get my day or per diem because the cute little E3 clerk racking up "sea time" by being stationed at Pearl could not grasp the concept of the IDL. Took a crusty old Chief to straighten her out.

[230RN]

Crossing multiple time zones for work?  That seems..... normal.

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So there's 75,000 watts of sodium lamps that went on today in the name of conserving energy.

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Had to raise holy hell to get my day or per diem because the cute little E3 clerk racking up "sea time" by being stationed at Pearl could not grasp the concept of the IDL. Took a crusty old Chief to straighten her out.

That is all.  TNX fer the grins.

[Jocassee]

Ummm ...

South Carolina, last I knew, was in the eastern time zone. That's UTC -5 during standard time. During DST it's UTC -4.

4 then. You know what I mean. Is there a reason we can't just stay there??

[MechAg94]

Don't even THINK about shooting Rudolph!

Of course not!   He makes it easier to see the other deer. 

[Hawkmoon]

4 then. You know what I mean. Is there a reason we can't just stay there??

"Because we're from the gubmint, and we say so!"

[230RN]

Quote from: Hawkmoon on March 13, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
Don't even THINK about shooting Rudolph!


Of course not!   He makes it easier to see the other deer. 

I was trying like hell to make a joke about red dot sights for that one.

Couldn't come up with one.

Fail.

Terry