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OK! What is your favorite western?
« on: December 27, 2006, 03:46:35 AM »
Another thread got me thinkin' about westerns.  What is you favorite?

Me?  I guess my favorite would be early, early John Wayne westerns shot long before he became a big star.  He appeared in a blue hundred B grade westerns.  Plots were pretty much the same.  Some of the character actors had an air of authenticity about them you just don't sense with today's actors.  Horsemanship was excellent.  Stunts were insanely dangerous.  Mid to late '30's Hollywood hired a number of genuine official cowboys as actors and consultants.  Tom Mix was one.  The famous Wyatt Earp made a nice living working with film producers.  My favorite John Wayne flick was "Searchers".  Couldn't decide until the end if he was a good guy or a bad guy.

My favorite TV western was "The Rifleman". Lots of good morals teaching going on.  Beside that, the music bed was great.  It added to the tension in ways that other westerns simply missed.

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Re: OK! What is you favorite western?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2006, 04:34:16 AM »
I can't decide which one, but there's a certain trilogy... smiley
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Re: OK! What is you favorite western?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2006, 05:26:10 AM »
Waitone -- I'm right there with you. Love the early John Wayne films, especially the "certain trilogy" referred to by Fistful. Probably my favorite film though is the I guess you could call it "pre-western" film, "The Big Trail". Wayne's first starring role and one of the first talkies. About the migration along the Oregon Trail. You have to see it in the "full" version though, usually shown on AMC a few times a year. The DVD Fox put out SUCKS. It has about 30 minutes cut out of the "good" version.

Also a big fan of the Rifleman, for the same reasons -- great "morals" stories and clear good vs bad tales. I like moral clarity once in a while.  smiley I'm re-watching the whole series via Netflix right now. I once dated and almost, tragically, married a far, far left gun hating liberal woman. One of my greatest legacies after breaking up with her was having hooked her five year old on "The Rifleman". The other one was hooking him on "The Three Stooges". She hated me so...... laugh
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Re: OK! What is you favorite western?
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2006, 05:43:39 AM »
They're all my favorites...  grin
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2006, 09:32:58 AM »
Blazing Saddles - besides being a pretty good western it is the movie that's made me laugh harder than any other regardless of genre in my 54 years.

John Wayne can't be beat.

#1 - John Wayne and the Cowboys
#2 - The Searchers

Another good one that comes to mind though I can't remember the name is that western with Gene Hackman as a gunfighter that holds a gun fighting contest in his town. Had Sharon Stone and Russel Crow in it too. Very cool movie and a great ending.
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2006, 09:55:18 AM »
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2006, 10:02:55 AM »
Blazing Saddles, Rio Bravo, and Pale Rider. 

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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2006, 10:57:05 AM »
Pale Rider, Unforgiven, and Open Range.
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2006, 11:24:04 AM »
The gun nuts favorite Western:  Big Jake. police
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2006, 12:17:16 PM »
Favorite "real" western that all the old folks have heard of:  The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.
Favorite modern western:  Unforgiven
Favorite silly western:  The Quick and the Dead.  Gene Hackman was great in that!
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2006, 12:19:35 PM »
My favorites include:

Rio Bravo.  Hawks' antidote to the absurdity of "High Noon."  It's one of the greatest Westerns ever made, and set the pattern for a thousand action films to come.  The whole opening segment is done with virtually no dialog and is a remarkable piece of filmmaking.  Wayne is paired off with Walter Brennan as the sidekick Stumpy and Dean Martin as a washed up drunk of a deputy.  Brennan was an academy award winning actor, and brings a depth to the sidekick role.  Martin was no stranger to the bottle, and does a surprisingly good job in the film.  The shootouts are fantastic.  Hawks himself remade it twice.  "El Dorado" is the best of these, and in some ways an improvement on the original. 

Stagecoach, of course.

Red River and The Searchers

I count "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" as a Western, and it also happens to be one of the top ten greatest films of all time.

I really liked "Silverado."  It's an homage to the golden age westerns and it works very well.  

For grittier westerns I Walter Hill's "The Long Riders."  It brought a historical realism and grit to the genre many years before "Unforgiven."

For TV westerns, "Lonesome Dove" is the best.  

"Tombstone" was fun, but I wish it had more Sam Elliot.  

And speaking of Elliot, I really really loved "Conagher," the retro TNT B-Western that gave Elliot the time to settle into his role.  Pick it up on DVD if you see it.  

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guess my favorite would be early, early John Wayne westerns shot long before he became a big star.  He appeared in a blue hundred B grade westerns.

A lot of these have been coming out on DVD lately.  "Tall in the Saddle" is one of my favorites.  It was made in '44, when Wayne was already well on his way to becoming an A-List superstar.  But the plot and style are a throwback to the serial Westerns of the 1930's.  It pairs Wayne with Gabby Hayes in several memorable scenes.  

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037343/

I've never cared much for Shane, High Noon, Dances with Wolves, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Little Big Man, or any of the other "squishy" or touchy-feely westerns. 

I like the Italian westerns as fun popcorn films, but don't care much for "Once Upon A Time in the West" because it tries to look serious and just ends up looking silly. 

I hated "The Quick and the Dead," the one with Sharon Stone in it.  Hackman looked very happy to finally get put out of his misery.   A western with that Dicaprio punk?  Come on.

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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2006, 12:22:33 PM »
I like the Deadwood series on HBO.

I like McClintock, Red River, Cheyenne Social Club, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence, My Name is Nobody, Nevada Smith, and Cowboy.
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2006, 01:23:02 PM »
My hands-down favorite is "The Unforgiven."

This may sound like heresy, but I never much cared for John Wayne. I have no idea why.

As for TV westerns, I like just about all of them: Rawhide, The Rifleman, Wanted Dead or Alive, Have Gun Will Travel (when I was a kid, I wanted to look like Richard Boone), and even Bonanza. Yeah, Bonanza wasn't a real western, but our whole family gathered around the TV on Sunday nights to watch it.

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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2006, 01:31:27 PM »
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is the best western ever made. Its only competition is The Searchers.

Winchester '73 is exceptionally good.

True Grit and the Shootist are great fun.

Pale Rider is an under appreciated classic.

Blazing Saddles is hysterical.

I really like Breakheart Pass, too, but it doesn't get very good reviews.
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2006, 01:58:35 PM »
Blazing Saddles - besides being a pretty good western it is the movie that's made me laugh harder than any other regardless of genre in my 54 years.

John Wayne can't be beat.

#1 - John Wayne and the Cowboys
#2 - The Searchers

Another good one that comes to mind though I can't remember the name is that western with Gene Hackman as a gunfighter that holds a gun fighting contest in his town. Had Sharon Stone and Russel Crow in it too. Very cool movie and a great ending.

I like a good many of John Wayne's films from the Cavalry trilogy on. And the Cav. trilogy finance "The Quiet Man" (which isn't a western, but a great John Wayne film). I thought McClintock was a real good one. True Grit... another good one, but based on a novel by Charles Portis.

That "The Quick and The Dead" thing... I saw it too. I thought the ending was the best part. She killed 'em and the movie was over. grin Sam Elliott did another film called "The Quick and The Dead" based on a Louis L'Amour novel by the same title. I consider it was a lot better.

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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2006, 02:02:50 PM »
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2006, 02:14:55 PM »
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is the best western ever made. Its only competition is The Searchers.

Winchester '73 is exceptionally good.

True Grit and the Shootist are great fun.

Pale Rider is an under appreciated classic.

Blazing Saddles is hysterical.

I really like Breakheart Pass, too, but it doesn't get very good reviews.

"Winchester '73" I really like. It and "The Far Country" are two of my favorite Jimmy Stewart westerns. Speaking of "The Far Country", Mr. Stewart owned the horse he rode... he rode him in seven westerns and kept him 20+ years until the horse's death.

"True Grit" I've already comment on except to say the movie was funnier than the novel due to the interaction between John Wayne, Glen Campbell, and Kim Darby. I think they really brought their characters to life.

"The Shootist"... you know, that's the last movie John Wayne ever made. He knew he was dying when they filmed it. Some of his historians said that movie was really his way of expressing what he was feeling at the time. That cancer's hell.

"Pale Rider"... I always tune in late, but I like what I see of it well enough I wish I could see it from the beginning so I know what brought the preacher to that settlement.

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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2006, 03:36:10 PM »
I'll 'prolly get flamed for this, but my top favorite western movie is Wyatt Erp, the one with Kevin Costner.  Pale Rider & Unforgiven tie for 2nd place.  Back to the Future, Pt III is 3rd.

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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2006, 05:47:05 PM »
For anyone interested in the B-movie John Wayne films, I was just browsing Amazon and they have 20 John Wayne westerns (mostly from his Lone Star days) for $5.49. Goto DVDs, then choose "under $9.99" and it's on the first page.
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2006, 06:17:31 PM »
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  What is proper punishment for such blasphemous utterance?  The mind boggles.   

I thought BttF3 was a pretty good funny "what if" kind of deal. But then I sorta also compare it with "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" because of the "Steampunk" genre and so many references to Jules Verne. But to list BttF3 among classic westerns, I don't think so.

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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2006, 06:49:14 PM »
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But to list BttF3 among classic westerns, I don't think so.

Well, the question was "What is your favorite western?", not "What is your favorite CLASSIC western?"  If we must exclude the western offshoots, replace BttF3 with Two Mules for Sister Sarah.
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2006, 09:32:59 PM »
Another good one I like is "A Fistful of Dollars."
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Re: OK! What is your favorite western?
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2006, 09:43:44 PM »
Not my favorite (Unforgiven has that tied up) but a fun one is Paint Your Wagon(I think that's the title).  It's a musical.  What makes it memorable (and painful) is that both Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood have singing parts!  shocked
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