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I'm assuming YOU are inferring that the UN, Bush and others are somehow conspiring to bring about this "global socialism". So then, there is no conspiracy to bring it about, it's just happening all by itself?
Why are you assuming that?
Why not instead simply say ....
"They are bringing it about"? I do not see them trying to
hide what they are doing. Do you?
Of course it happens all by itself. Like the progression of socialism in this country -
it just happened all by itself I also recognize that without the blessing and cooperation of the general population of any country we go into to "flush the toilet" the efforts would be fruitless.
This makes sense. So what makes you think that the general populations of the countries of central asia have the slightest blessings or intend to co-operate with us flushing their toilets with thousands of them likely to get "flushed" along those bogeymen and "terrorists" - based on their observations of our "efforts" in say yugoslavia and iraq?
And what of the picture the media is painting of the situation in Iraq? I hear again and again from informed sources, meaning people who have been there, that things aren't nearly as bad as the media would have you believe. What is the MEDIA'S agenda? That's what you should be asking.
I do not need to be asked. The media is there to
obligingly report and present the picture required on the day concerned. Like when Mr crook Chalabi's hired thugs were made to appear to fill Baghdad square when Saddam's statue was pulled down. And that half of Baghdad was thronging through the streets welcoming their "liberators".
How so very co-operative of the we-hate-bush-liberal-left-oppose-the-war-media.
How many iraqi civilians in total have been murdered, maimed, tortured, raped, robbed, displaced, had their homes destroyed - or have had friends and or family that have experienced the same fate - from day one to present?
What exactly is life like for the average iraqi - christian, sunni or other - in the areas not controlled by our military now?. Why are CNN reporters not randomly conducting live unedited interviews with iraqis on the streets all over iraq asking them
what the story is? Many iraqis speak english, and even those who do not could be subtitled, with the original audio intact and unedited for those who can to verify
the entire translations? Not such a rosey overall picture I suspect.
Do you think you're the only person who knows people who have been or are in iraq?
Who's going to pay for it and with what? I'd say it's a global concern. All peace loving nations should ante up. If we fail, it won't be pretty for anybody, anywhere.
You did not answer my question. Who is paying
now? Who
is going to pay for the conquest of central asia? Not who "should"; who
is going to pay, and
with what?
Why should we be concerned with being the world's toilet flusher? I think that's a great analogy. I used to work as a maintenance man at a nursing home, maybe 150 double occpancy rooms. You know what I would come to work to every Monday mornig? At least 5 toilets packed to the top with paper and human waste. You know why? Because those toilets stopped flushing and didn't get flushed all weekend and a toilet that doesn't get flushed collects more and more crap until it pretty much overflows. That's what happens in the various global toilets. That's why there are pirates off the coast of Somalia and terrorist gatherings within. All the crap is collecting there because nobody's flushing the toilet and it'll overflow sooner or later and we darn well might get some on us. This is what you want?
One man unclogging five toilets in a nursing home is not quite the same as conquering, occupying and rebuilding a major portion of planet earth with no army and no money.
Do you know, or do you think for a second that he combined brains of the entire U.S. gov know, what the militant populations of all the middle eastern and central asian "problem" nations of the world are?
How many people who are not so now, but will be - when their first son, daughter, father or mother is murdered, raped, or has their homes flattened?
What would you do if a foreign military force ran roughshod over your state, town, or neighborhood - and killed half your family "in the chaos of war"?
Or occupied the state capitol, leaving your town wide open - and in a racial feud over the local areas, rival thugs raped, tortured and murdered their way through your household? Would you just shrug it off and say, "I know guys, you meant well - it was
terrorists who did this to my family. You guys have my full support."
You have not thought this out very well.
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