"professionals" at what? All I see right now are professional agitators. I don't see professional fighters/killers/revolutionaries. That is why I think a lot of the civil war talk is premature. I think this is a calculated exercise intended to make it look like their is a crisis or make the far left numbers/voice look much stronger than it is. If the media wasn't pumping these people up, no one would even give them a second thought.
Professional organizers. Professionals at setting up or infiltrating institutions. Again, leftist terrorists during the 60's and 70's had support entities, legal support, found them jobs at universities, media support, etc. Organization takes practice. It's also very decentralized.
No, they have always had few to no professional fighters. Always amateurs and typically expendable morons for that job. Antifa is generally people with basket weaving degrees and at best retail jobs. Their 'shock troops' are a long way from the professional street thug armies of the original communist organization they borrowed the name from. Stalin arose from those professional communist street thug classes, to give you an indication of the uh, nature of such groups.
Those are valid points. Although there's a wide array of assumptions. I wouldn't postulate that Rightists would be doing this in any coordinated fashion "today", but only after things had gotten worse. Much worse. I'm talking worse than the 60's/70's... which I think you and I are in agreement we have not reached even 50% of yet. It only seems worse because of the modern electronic mediascape.
And holding off like this, that in of itself is one of the Right's attributes. The whole "too busy living my own life"-factor, which makes their overall threshold for action much much higher than the Left's. So my assumption is that by the time the Right is actually trying to get it's licks in at some rate that stands clear of the usual signal-to-noise ratio, things are pretty far gone already. And when things are that rodeo, fear of getting "caught" is greatly reduced. Conversely, security for ops is probably easier.
And there's already been enough examples of internecine fights within the Left, BLM shutting down gay-pride LBGTQ events etc. depending on how the violence is carried out, nobody may actually know who's done what.
And considering ALL the broad-based stereotypes of a nominal "Right" vs. a nominal "Left" who has more ability to pass through or into each other's AO's? Truck drivers, cops, construction workers etc. work in their areas. OTOH, the other sides types don't generally work or pass through ours. The productive class still has to enter into certain Leftist areas to work, be they just commuting through, actually performing their job etc. be they academia or the ghetto. The unproductive class, BLM or other professional protestor classes may not have such mobility.
The closest example in history I can think of are the right-wing paramilitaries of S. and Central America during various times of unrest there. I don't expect the US fed.gov to be at all cool with that, like say Columbia sometimes was in the face of FARC... but certain state and municipal governments that are largely "red", and have maybe one "blue" metropolis embedded within it? I could see that happening.
Also, I too hold no illusions about anyone "winning" a Civil War, but then again, I think I speak for many of us here when I say if it gets that bad, I'm willing to pay that price, rather than let the Left go unopposed.
Agree with everything you said, obviously.
Ugh, I concur that having bush armies of right wing paramilitaries won't end well. They tended to be just as dangerous as the Marxist enemies towards both the civilian population and government. I don't think that's extremely likely, and hopefully remains a mostly Central/South American 'thing'. A good example of the potential for outside entities enabling domestic armed groups.
Much like your point about FARC like groups, that's essentially what we have now with the rising leftist street thug groups. They can ONLY operate in areas that are already essentially under the control of their ideology. Because the cops, local government, media and other support entities support and enable such groups. They just want to keep their hands clean and keep a PR distance. If the cops are sitting in their cars watching normal political street thugs do the normal political street thug activities, it's because they're being told to do so by someone. Put political street thugs in... Take your pick. Anywhere that wasn't already occupied territory. They'd be likely arrested to the last person, charged with a long list of felonies and do a couple years in prison. If they weren't shot by the police, citizens or whatnot.
That acts as a major break on the very desired civil war round 2. Neither side can act very effectively in each other's turf. Good luck getting right wing types to try to beat up hippies in Berkeley, or oppress minorities in Oakland. Most right wing types would generally NOT EVER want to go into said areas. Contrary is, Antifa and anarchist types aren't likely to try their rampaging in corn fields in Iowa or Nebraska. Occasionally you get some weird event like the hippy fest protesting an oil pipeline or something. But you'll notice, they refused to really move far from their own cluster of fellow travelers. Wait a couple months, they get bored and move on. Typically leaving an incredible mess because hilariously they tend not to give an excrement about their own direct impact on the environment.
The left have spent the last 80 years, if not more, infiltrating media, academics, government/bureaucracy, ensuring amongst other things that the narrative is almost always in their favor in the press...and people need to be told that "the left is better organized"? You don't *expletive deleted*ing say? Face it, people. The Soviet Union may have fallen...fat lot of good that did for the rest of us when their useful idiots and fellow travellers are still around to peddle their filth. Lenin is smugly smiling in his mausoleum.
Ayep. The Soviets don't deserve a hundred percent of the credit for the far left in America, but they indeed helped. Their legacy lives on long after the fall of their government. Keep in mind, they also had 80 years of crafting the narrative. So, no. A lot of right wing types have NO BLOODY IDEA about the organization of the leftists. None. Whatsoever. They think it is neatly controlled by... someone. Rather than a sea of varying ideologies. Often complementing, but often diametrically opposed. Some is centralized, some are radically decentralized. They have far more horizontal integration.
