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USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« on: August 02, 2017, 03:55:04 PM »
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2017, 04:11:16 PM »
No true Communist, etc.
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2017, 05:04:52 PM »
USSR itself officially said what it had was not Communism, but rather "Advanced Socialism".

Communism was always the goal, never the current state of things.
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2017, 07:58:23 PM »
Quote from: White Horseradish on August 02, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
USSR itself officially said what it had was not Communism, but rather "Advanced Socialism".

Communism was always the goal, never the current state of things.

While that's true, anyone thinking the USSR  was capitalistic has a really really  BAD grasp on reality.
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2017, 08:35:11 PM »
Quote from: TommyGunn on August 02, 2017, 07:58:23 PM
While that's true, anyone thinking the USSR  was capitalistic has a really really  BAD grasp on reality.

The black market was pretty capitalistic.

Of course, officially it did not exist.
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2017, 09:38:00 PM »
Quote from: White Horseradish on August 02, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
USSR itself officially said what it had was not Communism, but rather "Advanced Socialism".

Communism was always the goal, never the current state of things.
Communism was always the goal.  Sacrifices have to be made by other people to get closer to that goal.
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2017, 09:48:44 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on August 02, 2017, 09:38:00 PM
Communism was always the goal.  Sacrifices have to be made by other people to get closer to that goal.

Goal, or gaol?  ;)
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2017, 11:33:20 PM »
Quote from: fistful on August 02, 2017, 09:48:44 PM
Goal, or gaol?  ;)

I see what you did there.  ;)
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2017, 08:25:53 AM »
USSR - Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics

Yeah, they were capitalists all right - their name says it all.  :facepalm:
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2017, 09:28:36 AM »
I knew a communist back in high school who claimed they weren't "really" communist but "collectivist crap". 

Oddly, he has evolved into a left-wing anarcho capitalist radical feminist:

http://radgeek.com/
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2017, 11:03:57 AM »
Quote from: fistful on August 02, 2017, 09:48:44 PM
Goal, or gaol?  ;)

That depends on which side of the barbed wire fence you are on.
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 11:21:38 AM »
I wonder what Oleg has to say about this.
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2017, 12:56:03 PM »
Quote from: adively on August 03, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
I wonder what Oleg has to say about this.


I heard he was in a meeting with Trump Jr.  :O
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2017, 02:13:44 PM »
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2017, 06:24:21 AM »
Another attempt to establish doublethink in newspeak...

War is Peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
Communism is Capitalism
Arbeit macht Frei
2017 is 1984

Oh, wait.  That last one is actually true.

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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2017, 06:08:47 PM »
Calling the USSR a capitalist state is nonsense, but its almost as nonsense to describe it as a communist one.  When "Marshal" Voroshilov retired in the 60s he was given a dacha and a pension of 8000 roubles a month - when skilled factory workers were earning 125, doctors 85, top-class ballerinas 1000 and Yuri Gagarin 639. 
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2017, 11:25:18 PM »
Quote from: agricola on August 05, 2017, 06:08:47 PM
Calling the USSR a capitalist state is nonsense, but its almost as nonsense to describe it as a communist one.  When "Marshal" Voroshilov retired in the 60s he was given a dacha and a pension of 8000 roubles a month - when skilled factory workers were earning 125, doctors 85, top-class ballerinas 1000 and Yuri Gagarin 639. 

Communism was .... is.....nothing more than a good system to keep peasants  impoverished while the powerful  wealthy remain....powerful and wealthy. 
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Re: USSR Was a Capitalistic, Not Communist
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2017, 06:22:54 AM »
Quote from: TommyGunn on August 05, 2017, 11:25:18 PM
Communism was .... is.....nothing more than a good system to keep peasants  impoverished while the powerful  wealthy remain....powerful and wealthy. 

I think the word you are looking for there is "government", given that almost all of them do that. 
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