Author Topic: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers  (Read 2279 times)

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Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« on: October 04, 2017, 12:19:08 PM »
On the one hand, I absolutely agree that SSNs are horrible security holes in people's lives and they need to go*. On the other hand, what an extremely daunting task. How do we do it in a non-Charlie Foxtrot manner?


*They wouldn't need to go, possibly, if gov was better at aggressively prosecuting fraud, but when they do things like let illegals steal someone's SSN, do nothing to the illegal, then to add insult to injury, assign the original holder a new number, that's whack. No system will work without enforcement.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-03/white-house-and-equifax-agree-social-security-numbers-should-go
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 12:27:07 PM »
And we need to do this because the effing federal government couldn't stick with one basic rule. I'm old enough to remember when the social security number COULD NOT be used for any other purpose. Then along came 1968 and the military phased out service numbers in favor of social security numbers, and then the downward slide accelerated until today EVERYONE uses your social security number as an ID code. That was originally supposed to be illegal. If they had just stayed with that, there wouldn't be a problem.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2017, 12:31:41 PM »
Can we phase out social security along with the social security numbers? Pretty please? With lobbyists and bill riders on top?

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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 12:49:02 PM »
And we need to do this because the effing federal government couldn't stick with one basic rule. I'm old enough to remember when the social security number COULD NOT be used for any other purpose. Then along came 1968 and the military phased out service numbers in favor of social security numbers, and then the downward slide accelerated until today EVERYONE uses your social security number as an ID code. That was originally supposed to be illegal. If they had just stayed with that, there wouldn't be a problem.

Now SSN's are so insecure we're back to service numbers.  Memorize your DOD ID!

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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2017, 07:50:53 PM »
I've got it! Give everyone a CAC, require them to change their pin every quarter, log in to their benefits site at least monthly and if they need help just dial the DOD helpline! Should eliminate crime, everyone will be on hold. Oh, and complete your CBT to get benefits. >:D
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2017, 07:54:37 PM »
And we need to do this because the effing federal government couldn't stick with one basic rule. I'm old enough to remember when the social security number COULD NOT be used for any other purpose. Then along came 1968 and the military phased out service numbers in favor of social security numbers, and then the downward slide accelerated until today EVERYONE uses your social security number as an ID code. That was originally supposed to be illegal. If they had just stayed with that, there wouldn't be a problem.


Somewhere I have my old dog eared ss card; it says on the back it is not to be used for identification purposes.   Waaaaaaaaay  back in the early 70s ??  I recall trying to use it in a bank for ID and the clerk couldn't accept it.
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2017, 08:04:26 PM »
there is nothing technically wrong, or insecure about using SSN as a unique identifier. The problems come when it is used as a password, which is mind-numbingly stupid. I don't see that we need to get rid of SSN since it's filling a necessary role well.
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2017, 09:37:54 PM »
Now SSN's are so insecure we're back to service numbers.  Memorize your DOD ID!

I didn't know that. Why am I not surprised?

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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2017, 09:48:56 PM »
Mine, if anybody cares: 078-05-1120.

And my mother's maiden name was O'Reilly.

If anybody cares.

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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2017, 09:52:03 PM »
Mine, if anybody cares: 078-05-1120.

Mine is 008-67-5309
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2017, 10:03:52 PM »
And my mother's maiden name was O'Reilly.

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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 12:12:10 AM »
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 08:01:46 AM »
Man, this would be a great time to just decide to make everybody get chipped.
No more SSN# to deal with. Just get scanned and your all good to go.
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 10:45:50 AM »
Man, this would be a great time to just decide to make everybody get chipped.
No more SSN# to deal with. Just get scanned and your all good to go.

And ensure no one is allowed to buy or sell anything without a chip.


Wait, that seems familiar somehow.
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2017, 11:47:24 AM »
Mine is 008-67-5309

Is Jenny there ??   ;) ;)


Man, this would be a great time to just decide to make everybody get chipped.
No more SSN# to deal with. Just get scanned and your all good to go.

Not Sure...    ;) ;)
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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2017, 12:22:54 AM »

Somewhere I have my old dog eared ss card; it says on the back it is not to be used for identification purposes.   Waaaaaaaaay  back in the early 70s ??  I recall trying to use it in a bank for ID and the clerk couldn't accept it.

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Re: Trump Admin Want to Ixnay Social Security Numbers
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2017, 10:38:23 AM »
Is Jenny there ??   ;) ;)


Not Sure...    ;) ;)

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