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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #350 on: March 19, 2018, 03:10:58 PM »
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #351 on: March 19, 2018, 03:15:02 PM »

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #352 on: March 19, 2018, 03:24:46 PM »
It's ripe for a demotivator meme, of course. One caption I was thinking of was along the lines of "Glock Perfection May Not Extend to the Operator." Needs some tweaking, though.
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #354 on: March 19, 2018, 06:30:28 PM »
Can you imagine the utter shitstorm that would have rained down on any conservative politician that had made that suggestion about Obama?
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #355 on: March 19, 2018, 06:42:20 PM »
The Left only has double standards.
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #356 on: March 19, 2018, 07:38:09 PM »
The Left only has double standards.

Be happy with THAT,  cause if they didn't have double standards they have no standards. [popcorn] >:D
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #357 on: March 19, 2018, 07:48:33 PM »
Be happy with THAT,  cause if they didn't have double standards they'd have no standards. [popcorn] >:D

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #358 on: March 19, 2018, 10:28:30 PM »
https://nypost.com/2018/03/19/congressman-suggests-second-amendment-as-means-of-opposing-trump/

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But the Suozzi campaign at the same time seemed to double down on the comments, as they forwarded a line penned by Thomas Jefferson that called for armed resistance.

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms,” the quote said.

Suozzi’s comment seems to conflict with his recent push for gun control following the Parkland, Florida, school shooting.

Suozzi even participated in the March 14 student walkout for gun control outside the US Capitol — and called on the young people of his district to back tightened gun laws.

Goodness me! A liberal gun grabber engaging in hypocrisy. What's this world coming to, anyway?
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #359 on: March 21, 2018, 08:14:14 PM »
Remember how some people turned their rifles into illegal SBRs following the shooting? So far it appears the ATF doesn't care, https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/local/article_3f9ca756-26de-11e8-85cd-8bf636d46afc.html
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #360 on: March 22, 2018, 12:18:38 AM »
Remember how some people turned their rifles into illegal SBRs following the shooting? So far it appears the ATF doesn't care, https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/local/article_3f9ca756-26de-11e8-85cd-8bf636d46afc.html

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #361 on: March 22, 2018, 10:47:04 AM »
Remember how some people turned their rifles into illegal SBRs following the shooting? So far it appears the ATF doesn't care, https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/local/article_3f9ca756-26de-11e8-85cd-8bf636d46afc.html

Hmmm ...

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Adam Gershowitz, a College of William & Mary law school professor who specializes in criminal law, said Mallard’s cutting off most of the barrel of the gun doesn’t mean she committed a crime. Prosecutors would be required to show she intended to create an unlawful weapon when she cut it, he said.

Different rules for politicians (and those who aspire to become politicians), it seems. This sounds suspiciously like a well-known statement to the effect that Hillary Clinton shouldn't be prosecuted for unlawfully transmitting classified material by e-mail because she didn't "intend" to violate the law.

How did that work out for Randy Weaver?
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #362 on: March 22, 2018, 12:17:41 PM »
Hmmm ...

Different rules for politicians (and those who aspire to become politicians), it seems. This sounds suspiciously like a well-known statement to the effect that Hillary Clinton shouldn't be prosecuted for unlawfully transmitting classified material by e-mail because she didn't "intend" to violate the law.

How did that work out for Randy Weaver?

So if I cut down a rifle so it would fit in a particular case or place and I said I didn't know about those obscure laws would I be able to get off? I really didn't have intent. ;)

I don't think I will try, I know what happened to Randy Weaver, he is a semi-local guy.

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #363 on: March 22, 2018, 01:07:08 PM »
^^^I wonder whatever happened to Mr. Weaver?
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #364 on: March 22, 2018, 02:11:35 PM »
^^^I wonder whatever happened to Mr. Weaver?

I don't think he is around here anymore. He used to hit the gun show circuit for a while. Last year (2017) was the 25th anniversary of Ruby Ridge and it was all over the news and in the newspapers as a retrospective look at things.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/20/shawn-vestal-tremors-of-ruby-ridge-in-todays-natio/

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/feb/12/journalist-was-eyewitness-to-tragedy-nightmare-of-/#/0

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/feb/12/return-to-ruby-ridge-american-experience-returns-t/

I think his daughter Sara still lives around here though. I think she hit the local gun show last year to talk about the standoff.

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #365 on: March 23, 2018, 11:16:12 AM »
Old and busted: "Hey, YOU BLOODTHIRSTY GUN NUTS HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS FOR INSISTING ON YOUR CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED RIGHTS! YOU JUST WANT MORE DEAD CHILDREN FOR THE GUN $$$$$"

New hotness: "Clear backpacks are embarrassing and how DARE you infringe on our RIGHT TO PRIVACY!"

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/03/23/hmm-david-hogg-doesnt-want-students-constitutional-right-to-carry-non-clear-backpacks-infringed-upon/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #366 on: March 23, 2018, 11:19:54 AM »
Since when do public school students have a right to privacy?
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #367 on: March 23, 2018, 11:22:58 AM »
Since when do public school students have a right to privacy?

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #368 on: March 23, 2018, 11:40:25 AM »
I hate to be one of those "I walked 10 miles to school in the snow barefoot" guys, but I'm curious on this whole backpack thing.

In elementary school, we just carried our books and binders under our arms and I walked a mile to school like that.
In Junior High, we carried the books and binders we needed under our arms, and the rest were kept in our lockers, swapped out between periods.
High School was the same as Junior High, though instead of the bus, I rode my bike and my homework stuff went on the bike rack. At least till senior year when I had a car.

Do they not put lockers in schools anymore? For Junior High and higher, I can then understand the need for backpacks. Seems like these days, kids would also have fewer books than I did, and laptops/tablets don't weigh much, at least compared to a 1970s math book.

Otherwise, fine, carry a backpack - it's a lot easier than carrying books under your arm, but as mentioned above, at what point did school kids get privacy? I remember any teacher at any time for any reason could open my locker at school if they wanted to. At least with a clear backpack, the bullies aren't knocking the three books and a binder you're carrying under your arm onto the ground every other day. Certainly there can be some very personal privacy issues - feminine products, meds, etc. They likely need to come up with a solution to that, or else just leave both guns and backpacks alone.


Also, yeah, this Hogg kid suddenly is concerned with rights when a restriction affects him? He has become the poster boy for the progressive agenda of "We're taking your rights, don't touch ours!" His freakin' 15 minutes expired like two weeks ago. I can only imagine the kind of crap that will come out of this weekend.
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #369 on: March 23, 2018, 12:07:13 PM »
I'll agree with Hogg on this.  I don't like the clear backpacks idea (or the clear bags rule at sporting events).  I don't like training our kids to be more and more accepting of and comfortable with the culture of surveillance, lack of privacy, and so forth.  Yes, I get it is school, and yes, I realize schools are already frighteningly similar to prisons, but that doesn't mean I support moving further in that direction.

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #370 on: March 23, 2018, 12:23:42 PM »
School is slowly turning into prison for kids and they might get some education out of it.  Wait until they suggest housing them in dormitories so they don't have to actually leave the school grounds.  Most of them are from broken families anyway and we are already feeding them multiple meals a day so why do they need to go home?   ;/
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #371 on: March 23, 2018, 05:06:13 PM »
Watching old movies or TV shoes kids used to use bookstraps to keep all their things together.

Why not go back to using those?

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #372 on: March 23, 2018, 05:12:23 PM »
Watching old movies or TV shoes kids used to use bookstraps to keep all their things together.

Why not go back to using those?


Because then we'd have to teach them how to use them, and that would use up half the academic year.
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #373 on: March 24, 2018, 08:48:32 AM »
I remember after Columbine our school temporarily banned backpacks, so I through all my things in a black garbage bag and dragged that from class to class. :angel:
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #374 on: March 24, 2018, 02:51:20 PM »
Looking at the coverage of the March for AstroTurf and man. If you hate Trump, why give him this midterm gift? Any chance of a rational platform from the left( I know, I know, stop laughing) is done.
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