The Pro Gun Bandwagon

[MechAg94]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-doj-speed-sales-transfers-machine-guns/story?id=53635619
Trump DOJ wants to speed up sales and transfers of machine guns

I think this is an attempt at a hit piece, but it is good news to me.

[bedlamite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBEUlJZg5CY

[MechAg94]

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/04/discussion-consensus-gun-regulation-possible/

I listened to this earlier this morning.  Discussion on whether compromise is possible.  John Lott makes some pretty good points that it isn't.  Liberals don't want safety or less crime, they just want to ban guns.

[Ben]

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/04/discussion-consensus-gun-regulation-possible/

 Liberals don't want safety or less crime, they just want to ban guns.

And then knives.

[dogmush]

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/04/discussion-consensus-gun-regulation-possible/

I listened to this earlier this morning.  Discussion on whether compromise is possible.  John Lott makes some pretty good points that it isn't.  Liberals don't want safety or less crime, they just want to ban guns.

I may just be getting crankier in my old age, but I've started arguing gun rights less IRL, because I find myself less willing to entertain the notion that my natural rights are subject to compromise or the whims of the majority. 


Why should I bother? Especially because it's becoming increasingly obvious the compromise isn't being offered in good faith, and they will be back for more restrictions later.  Not to put too fine a point on it, but the other side is negotiating in bad faith, and has every intention of breaking their word, and our side has guns.  Why even pretend to compromise?  I think everyone knows it's going to come to violence at some point anyway.

[Ben]

Why should I bother? Especially because it's becoming increasingly obvious the compromise isn't being offered in good faith, and they will be back for more restrictions later.  Not to put too fine a point on it, but the other side is negotiating in bad faith, and has every intention of breaking their word, and our side has guns.  Why even pretend to compromise?  I think everyone knows it's going to come to violence at some point anyway.

I don't know that "it cracks me up" is the right phrase to use, but it cracks me up that they're not even bothering to hide it anymore, especially since Vegas and Parkland. I've even seen some of them say recently, in the same breath, "We just want to enact some sensible restrictions... but eventually, yeah, we want to ban all guns."

I'm kind of glad that Parkland has emboldened them to come out of their closet and say what their end goals are.

[230RN]

COMING OF AGE

I may just be getting crankier in my old age, but I've started arguing gun rights less IRL [In Real Life?], because I find myself less willing to entertain the notion that my natural rights are subject to compromise or the whims of the majority.  


Why should I bother? Especially because it's becoming increasingly obvious the compromise isn't being offered in good faith, and they will be back for more restrictions later.  Not to put too fine a point on it, but the other side is negotiating in bad faith, and has every intention of breaking their word, and our side has guns.  Why even pretend to compromise?  I think everyone knows it's going to come to violence at some point anyway.

What?  You mean some of you guys are finally realizing that any kind of compromise with the left wing, liberals, socialists, commies, progressives, whatever-whoever, is actually just another step forward in their ultimate goals?

I'm sure other old folks such as myself have had adequate "notice" of their intent years and years ago --in my case, since the mid 1960s.

Oh, but of course, we were all paranoid, and our opinions about "reasonable restrictions" were just obstinate muleheaded right-wing stubborness.  

Yup.  That's me.

Welcome aboard, guys.

 Terry, 230RN

[MechAg94]

I think most of us already realized it, I just am happy to see it becoming part of the public discussion and debate.  Usually it was just something said on gun forums. 

[Ben]

I think most of us already realized it, I just am happy to see it becoming part of the public discussion and debate.  Usually it was just something said on gun forums. 

Yup. It's not about "us" realizing it. We have known for a long, long time. It's about "them" being brazen enough now to say so themselves. It's a good thing, because they are at a point where they seem they don't have to hide their agenda.

They are completely buying into their own propaganda that everyone now believes gun owners are terrorists, and they don't have to worry about blowback or the pendulum swinging away from them. It's like they're using the same sources that said a Clinton win was a lock.

[MechAg94]

That is another reason I am not sure about this blue wave business next fall.  Dems running on gun control and higher taxes is usually a loser.  Also, Trump has been doing good things for unions in rust belt states.

[RoadKingLarry]

Does my heart good to see a Democrat publicly state that they want you to vote for them so they can raise taxes.
Got to pay for those benefits for illegal immigrants somehow don't ya know...

Then, I realize that the "Average American" is a slack jawed, mouth breathing, booger eating moron that will probably vote for them anyway.
And, since only a little over half the population actually pays taxes we're probably pretty well fooked.

[MechAg94]

I don't think the average American is that bad or we would already be worse off.  I think the best thing to do is keep them focused on taxes and guns up to the election and don't allow other issues to be a distraction.  Will that be done?  Who knows.  If the media doesn't see things going their way up to this summer, they will change tactics and try to find something to push voters the way they want.

[Perd Hapley]

http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/13/britains-knife-control-bad-parody-gun-control/