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Manedwolf

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Re: Rome second season
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2007, 04:24:46 AM »
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Copyright infringement is only "stealing" because the word has been redefined by the industry to include illegal digital distribution even when nobody is deprived of the "stolen" property.

Pure rationalization.

You'd likely feel differently if YOU were a small creative-content author and provider trying to sell your copyrighted content.

I know of several such who have entirely abandoned their artistic and musical pursuits because they can't support themselves with it. Not for a lack of interest...they regularly find their works all over the web. No, it's because they can't even sell more than a few actual "real" CDs of content before finding that someone's ripped it and spewed it all over the web for "free"...and then they don't sell any more.

In my case, I do graphics design for industry. It can take me literally days to do a complete ad layout or video. That's REAL work, real hours spent creating a product. And if someone rips it off and uses it without compensating me, that IS stealing.

Doesn't hurt anyone? Right.

Every time you pirate something, you're hurting your own choices, because small, more-creative content providers just completely give up when their every effort is stolen, and they can't make a dime doing it.

And as for large companies, the more people rip THEM off, the more they're encouraged to institute annoying, draconian lockdowns that prevent conveniences like being able to view content on multiple devices. First comes the closed door, and then when people ignore that, a lock. When they break that, a deadbolt. And then, eventually, a steel vault door and full-body patdown before you can walk through.

The few who don't want to pay for content damage things for those who legally do.
Sort of like welfare queens, but with music and video. Think about it.

And you ARE stealing. Someone created something and asked a price for it, you took it without paying that price, you are stealing.

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Re: Rome second season
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2007, 05:50:46 AM »
RE: Copying/Downloading TV Shows...

Copying or DL'ng broadcast network TV shows is no different from copying songs off the radio if it's for your own use - at least that's what the Supremes say anyway. Perfectly legit.

Copying an HBO show though is a bit different. You can't get HBO without paying for it. You subscribe to the service. It's an extra on your cable bill.

If you Download an HBO show and aren't an HBO subscriber you're stealing - it is that simple.

Going to the library and checking out the DVD - whole 'nother matter. That's perfectly legit and a horse of a different color.

Go to a bud's house and watch an HBO show - of course that too is legit - your BUD is paying for it.

Piracy is a big issue in the game industry and until now I had no idea that it was a problem in other medias too.

I guess people are the same all over regardless of their interests.
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Re: Rome second season
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2007, 11:47:56 AM »
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Y'know, instead of wasting all that time and effort finding ways to successfully steal a video, I instead use the time to do some billable work so I can go out and buy it.

Oh, I'm with you on that. I'm just also a bittorrent evangelist because I like it a lot. I stopped stealing music some months ago (and deleted my whole collection. That hurt, but I've got like fifteen legit albums now and counting) and stopped stealing computer games some months after that. The only things I bittorrent these days are teh porns and games which I can't find anywhere else (like really old games, X-COM: UFO Defense, for the win!).

Receiving a good or service for free when you otherwise would have had to pay for it is theft. Pure and simple. You can change the words, you can call the record/movie/television/game publishing/book industry "evil" and "wrong" and "unfair" all the way to the bank and back, but you're still stealing and that's all there is to it. And if you still don't want to stop, that's fine, but don't make up silly rationales or new names or justifications for your thievery, just be.

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Re: Rome second season
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2007, 12:07:16 PM »
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The only things I bittorrent these days are teh porns and games which I can't find anywhere else (like really old games, X-COM: UFO Defense, for the win!).

The market is finally waking up to that demand, too, to provide them legally.

The N64 Ocarina of Time will soon be available to download for about 1000 points on Wii Shopping, EA just released Origin's first Wing Commander, the original, for PSP, and there's even complete Space Quest and King's Quest (Sierra Online, OLD graphic parser games with excellent writing) collections for $14 for the entire run, updated to work on current machines. Lucasarts is the only one lagging with collections.

About time.