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The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« on: January 25, 2019, 10:24:02 AM »
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/the-hard-part-of-a-computer-science-major-can-be-getting-into-class/

Everyone apparently thinks the quick road to riches now is to be a computer science major.  Good luck finding a program with room to take you, however.
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 10:49:18 AM »
And... in a few years of jamming the pipeline with computer science majors there will be so many in the job market they will be a dime a dozen.
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2019, 11:27:01 AM »
And... in a few years of jamming the pipeline with computer science majors there will be so many in the job market they will be a dime a dozen.
But we need more H1B visa workers!

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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2019, 11:42:48 AM »
But we need more H1B visa workers!



This.  I thought computer sci was a terrible field because you were easily replaced with immigrants, with the connivance of congress...   ???

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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2019, 12:44:02 PM »
Computer Science was supposed to be big in the early 90's when I started college (at least students were told that).  I guess it was okay for a while during the dot.com boom, but it seems to me it was never a great way to go.

I recall people not wanting to do petroleum engineering at the time, but in hindsight, that was probably a good choice and has been in demand. 
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2019, 01:17:22 PM »
^^^ Have you seen the compensation rates for Google, Amazon, Facebook, et al?  Not hard to make $100k fresh out of school and $200k with 3-5 years experience.  Good ones can top $350k by 30.  And that includes H1B workers.  Granted you'll have to live in SF or Seattle for those payscales but oh well.

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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2019, 02:30:01 PM »
^^^I am aware of those payscales and I think of how I compare, with 35 years of experience and a legal, graduate science and business degree.  And some kid fresh out of school with a BS beats my salary by 50%.
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2019, 04:38:37 PM »
^^^I am aware of those payscales and I think of how I compare, with 35 years of experience and a legal, graduate science and business degree.  And some kid fresh out of school with a BS beats my salary by 50%.


Sure but you didn't have to sell your soul.
How does even $350K in SF compare to $150K in a normal part of the country? Will that even allow someone to buy a nice house within 50 miles of where they work?
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2019, 06:58:38 PM »
Sure but you didn't have to sell your soul.
Dude has a law degree. He doesn’t sell souls, he buys them.

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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2019, 07:38:44 PM »
crap, missed that.
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2019, 09:03:11 AM »
Apparently about 70% of tech workers in Silicon Valley are foreign born. 

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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2019, 11:33:04 AM »
And... in a few years of jamming the pipeline with computer science majors there will be so many in the job market they will be a dime a dozen.

Coal mines are hiring.
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2019, 11:39:40 AM »
Coal mines are hiring.
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2019, 11:43:27 AM »

Sure but you didn't have to sell your soul.
How does even $350K in SF compare to $150K in a normal part of the country? Will that even allow someone to buy a nice house within 50 miles of where they work?

1 bedroom 850 sqft condo near downtown San Francisco for only $1.2m.  Comes with one parking space!

Islamic sex dolls.  Do they blow themselves up?

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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 02:14:32 PM »
1 bedroom 850 sqft condo near downtown San Francisco for only $1.2m.  Comes with one parking space!


I was going to be outraged and then I saw the parking space was included.   
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Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2019, 10:27:21 PM »
Son2 & family were paying >$3,000/mo for a 2 bedroom apartment in San Mateo, (just south of SF), which was going to increase at renewal time.  They moved to Washington last week.