Partial Gov Shut Down in Effect

[makattak]

I'm very disappointed I didn't get anything I wanted for RIFmas...

[Perd Hapley]

I'm very disappointed I didn't get anything I wanted for RIFmas...

RIFmas? Is that like Fitzmas?

[makattak]

RIFmas? Is that like Fitzmas?

Yesterday was 30 days into the shutdown and all furloughed workers were eligible for "Reduction In Force", a nice way of saying "fired".

Come on, we elected the man most famous for saying "You're Fired" and he doesn't jump at that chance? SOOOO disappointed.

[Jamisjockey]

Yesterday was 30 days into the shutdown and all furloughed workers were eligible for "Reduction In Force", a nice way of saying "fired".

Come on, we elected the man most famous for saying "You're Fired" and he doesn't jump at that chance? SOOOO disappointed.

Trump isn't some small government messiah.  He's only doing this for the wall.
After all, he isn't the guy that ran on closing down unnecessary agencies...that guy was mocked and laughed at.

[brimic]

Trump isn't some small government messiah.  He's only doing this for the wall.
After all, he isn't the guy that ran on closing down unnecessary agencies...that guy was mocked and laughed at.

I detect no lies here.

[MechAg94]

Trump isn't some small government messiah.  He's only doing this for the wall.
After all, he isn't the guy that ran on closing down unnecessary agencies...that guy was mocked and laughed at.

And then he accepted a cabinet post over one of those agencies.   

[Ron]

Trump is reasonably in tune with the rights zeitgeist, spirit of the age.

His success is dependent on staying “in tune” as well as leading the right forward.

Yes, it’s that bad, Trump is the only real leader on the right.

He’s doing ok though, I’m way more enthusiastic now than I was in 16.

[Jamisjockey]

OPM and the administration are beginning to take it out on the employees. 
An unsigned OPM memo has begun circulating telling management to mark anyone who calls in sick as AWOL.

[dogmush]

Do you know the difference between an unsigned memo and toilet paper?

Toilet paper has at least one use.

[Jamisjockey]

This is not okay.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Politics/coast-guard-deployed-middle-east-pacific-pay-government/story?id=60566995

Oh and OPM completely reversed the unsigned memo.  We now have guidance that is more liberal than the guidance before the unsigned memo.  It's perplexing and points to chaos in the administration.  They have no *expletive deleted*ing idea how to manage the shutdown.

[WLJ]

I think we just hit maximum stupid

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/01/24/puts-on-tinfoil-hat-david-hogg-strikes-again-this-time-with-a-theory-on-the-real-reason-behind-the-government-shutdown/

[Ron]

Are there lines of credit open to all government workers impacted by the shut down?

[Jamisjockey]

Are there lines of credit open to all government workers impacted by the shut down?

Nope. Depends on bank to bank.

And the idea that government workers should have to take out loans to cover their bills while working for the most powerful nation on the face of the earth is the most *expletive deleted*ing absurd thing I've heard in my life. The Government literally prints the money. 

[AZRedhawk44]

All this just goes to show if it's "too big to fail" it absolutely cannot be part of the government.

Remember the push a couple years back to privatize airport security?  I bet all the government security functionaries wish they had supported that a little more at this point.

My life keeps getting better and better every day government is cancelled and the rest of the actual taxpaying public realize they're better off with fewer government teat suckers.  Makes people ask hard questions, like "how would you go about providing air traffic control, to be resistant or immune to a government shutdown?"

[Perd Hapley]

Huff Po: The Longest Government Shutdown Ever Is Making Civil Service Less Attractive

Beautiful.

[Jamisjockey]

All this just goes to show if it's "too big to fail" it absolutely cannot be part of the government.

Remember the push a couple years back to privatize airport security?  I bet all the government security functionaries wish they had supported that a little more at this point.

My life keeps getting better and better every day government is cancelled and the rest of the actual taxpaying public realize they're better off with fewer government teat suckers.  Makes people ask hard questions, like "how would you go about providing air traffic control, to be resistant or immune to a government shutdown?"

If air traffic services were actually shut down you’d *expletive deleted*ing know it

[Ben]

Well, Trump negotiated down to what I was guessing he would do -- taking a a lesser amount for barriers. He called it a "downpayment", which should have been good strategically for the dems, because it could have reopened the gov, and then they could have stalled/fought on any money above the "downpayment".

Pelosi told him to get stuffed. This really should be called the Pelosi shutdown at this point.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-large-down-payment-on-wall-could-end-government-shutdown

[RoadKingLarry]

If air traffic services were actually shut down you’d *expletive deleted*ing know it

Well, other than it being all over the news I wouldn't anticipate and immediate effect on my day to day life.
I haven't flown since early 2001 and a temporary delay of *expletive deleted*it I don't really need coming 2nd day from Amazon isn't going to leave any lasting emotional scars.

[Jamisjockey]

Well, Trump negotiated down to what I was guessing he would do -- taking a a lesser amount for barriers. He called it a "downpayment", which should have been good strategically for the dems, because it could have reopened the gov, and then they could have stalled/fought on any money above the "downpayment".

Pelosi told him to get stuffed. This really should be called the Pelosi shutdown at this point.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-large-down-payment-on-wall-could-end-government-shutdown

Schumer shot down the bill to pay the USCG.
Trump started it, but the dems own it.
I honestly believe Trump would take a reasonable compromise.  The Dems refuse to give him a wall of any kind, and don't give a *expletive deleted*ck who's hurt in the process.

[Jamisjockey]

And that dirty socialist tramp from NY was the only dem to vote against opening the government. 

[Jamisjockey]

  Makes people ask hard questions, like "how would you go about providing air traffic control, to be resistant or immune to a government shutdown?"

There was a pretty good plan to do just that put forward.  I supported it because it would also return power to the workforce.  Under current federal law we're not allowed to strike or take other organized work actions. 
Trump actually supported it, too.
It died in committee.  Seems that the GOP doesn't want to divest the government of full control.

[Ben]

I honestly believe Trump would take a reasonable compromise. 

Yup. Whatever else you can say about the guy, his whole shtick on this is the same as buying a piece of real estate - offer and counter-offer.

The dems are refusing the negotiations, and thinking about it more, they are really shooting themselves in the foot about it. Were they to sign off on the "downpayment", it could actually help them a few years down the road. The downpayment amount isn't enough to cover more than a few strategic areas. They've got a "gimme" for a few years down the road to say, "See! Walls don't work!" because people will still be getting through unsecured geographic gaps that need a barrier.

Also, the Trump admin is getting all the heat for "fed employees need food banks to survive" and Pelosi, et. al. somehow seem to be Teflon on that. Which is a bit hypocritical because they're  the ones supposedly "standing up for the employees".  If the employees are that important, then sign off on a couple of billion dollars (which many on the dem side are apparently okay with). It's a drop in the bucket of money spent on stuff like lobsters on treadmills.

[Ben]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/01/24/fun-fact-house-democrats-defeated-a-bipartisan-bill-to-pay-federal-workers-during-the-shutdown-n2539969

The article that preceded the above also has some interesting points and ideas:

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/01/23/will-pelosi-ever-get-to-yes-on-ending-the-shutdown-or-is-she-fixated-on-total-victory-over-trump-n2539901

[Jamisjockey]

Well the pressure just ratcheted up today. You can only *expletive deleted*it on people so long.

[brimic]

I hear that New Yawk is having problems