Author Topic: Newest Twitter Ban: "Learn to Code" (Read 1850 times)

Ben · « **on:** January 28, 2019, 09:48:17 AM »

So all these reporters that got laid off at Buzzfeed, Huffpo, and other lefty rags are whining about how they are unfairly out of the job. I saw the other day one of them said their resume included a PhD in "romance novels". She wasn't joking - she thought it was an important part of her resume. People were all telling them, "Hey, learn to code!"

Some may recall that many of these same reporters, when asked what workers should do when, as their articles suggested, the coal and oil industries should be shut down, said, "They need to learn to code." Now when people are telling these reporters the same thing, it's breaking Twitters "hate rules" or something.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/01/28/twitters-new-hate-crime-tweeps-are-getting-busted-for-saying-the-c-word-to-laid-off-journos-but-its-not-the-c-word-you-think/

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:55:00 AM »

These aren't coal-miners, Ben, these are the special people! Have you no decency, sir?

makattak · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2019, 09:55:11 AM »

While I don't agree with the taunts, it's a shorthand for the lack of compassion that most of the "elite" seemed to have for blue-collar workers who had lost their jobs.

The most prominent of which was the suggestion they just needed to move out of their town and/or learn to code. (Kevin Williamson was one who wrote such articles.)

It's a way of saying that the answer is really easy and just a matter of retraining, and to say, effectively, "Stop crying and suck it up."

Which, of course, ignores the massive disruption these people (either blue-collar workers or the journalists) had to their lives and what it would take to retrain them. Which is the point of turning it around on the "elites".

Somehow, though, turning it about on the MINUSCULE numbers of people laid off at these journalisming factories is beyond the pale. Because the "elite" protects their own.

Ben · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:06:45 AM »

Quote from: makattak on January 28, 2019, 09:55:11 AM

While I don't agree with the taunts, it's a shorthand for the lack of compassion that most of the "elite" seemed to have for blue-collar workers who had lost their jobs.

I'll agree it's a little juvenile. One would hope though (and I know I'm wrong as I write it) that maybe the "turnabout" would make the journalists recognize how flippant they were when they (and the Obama admin at the time) started the "learn to code" stuff.

Fly320s · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:32:22 AM »

Quote from: makattak on January 28, 2019, 09:55:11 AM

While I don't agree with the taunts

I do. Whole heartedly.

When attacked, a person should defend himself.

K Frame · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:39:57 AM »

Coal miners are enemies of the state and the environment.

You can't say anything hateful to them.

WLJ · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:48:31 AM »

Quote from: fistful on January 28, 2019, 09:55:00 AM

These aren't coal-miners, Ben, these are the special people! Have you no decency, sir?

Yep, They're "special"

Does that count as name calling?

DittoHead · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:55:57 AM »

I don't care if these reporters go get jobs as coal miners or coders, as long as they're out there looking for work then good for them.
If they're sitting on twitter whining about being laid off and insisting how unfair it is then they're fair game.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:57:26 AM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on January 28, 2019, 10:39:57 AM

Coal miners are enemies of the state and the environment.

You can't say anything hateful to them.

The coal miners objected to President Hillary Clinton's musings that they would lose their jobs, and voted for Orange Man. That makes them fascists. Fascists should be punched.

makattak · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2019, 10:57:29 AM »

Quote from: Fly320s on January 28, 2019, 10:32:22 AM

I do. Whole heartedly.

When attacked, a person should defend himself.

Most certainly.

However, I'm more than willing to bet that not a single twitter user taunting in such a way is a laid-off blue-collar worker. Any coal miner or steel worker is justified.

You're just another white-collar worker on twitter opposed to the left? You're not being attacked.

MillCreek · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2019, 11:00:47 AM »

Because I like to learn something every day, is 'learn to code' a viable option? If I am a 45 year old person, where would I go to learn to code, and is this a pretty realistic way to get a good job?

cordex · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2019, 11:15:06 AM »

Quote from: MillCreek on January 28, 2019, 11:00:47 AM

Because I like to learn something every day, is 'learn to code' a viable option? If I am a 45 year old person, where would I go to learn to code, and is this a pretty realistic way to get a good job?

If you're smart, willing to learn new things and keep up with changes, hard working and motivated to teach yourself and avail yourself of the huge amount of free information available online then absolutely it is realistic.

But someone like that can make it in any field.

Fly320s · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2019, 11:26:16 AM »

Quote from: MillCreek on January 28, 2019, 11:00:47 AM

Because I like to learn something every day, is 'learn to code' a viable option? If I am a 45 year old person, where would I go to learn to code, and is this a pretty realistic way to get a good job?

Many options.

https://www.google.com/search?q=adult+education+computer+programming+coding&rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS746US747&oq=adult+education+computer+programming+coding&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.10926j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

MillCreek · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2019, 12:22:04 PM »

^^^ The local media has done some exposes on local 'coding boot camps' that last several weeks, costs many thousands of dollars, and have resulted in few job placements. Many of these programs are no longer eligible to receive state unemployment/retraining dollars, so I was curious if there are legitimate programs that lead to an actual job. I know that a lot of the local dot.com employers look for academic credentials and/or certifications.

Ben · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2019, 12:44:41 PM »

MechAg94 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2019, 02:08:42 PM »

Quote from: MillCreek on January 28, 2019, 12:22:04 PM

^^^ The local media has done some exposes on local 'coding boot camps' that last several weeks, costs many thousands of dollars, and have resulted in few job placements. Many of these programs are no longer eligible to receive state unemployment/retraining dollars, so I was curious if there are legitimate programs that lead to an actual job. I know that a lot of the local dot.com employers look for academic credentials and/or certifications.

The first step is to move to India. Then come back on an H1B visa and work for lower wages for a while.

Could you get a job as first level tech support for a foreign country?

DittoHead · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2019, 02:17:09 PM »

Learn to keep bees!
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/01/28/685878133/out-of-work-appalachian-coal-miners-train-as-beekeepers-to-earn-extra-cash

Ben · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:00:46 PM »

I guess they haven't comprehended that the more you whine, the more people make fun of you. :)

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/01/28/mr-gorbachev-tear-down-this-code-tweeps-respond-to-journo-butthurt-over-learn-to-code-mockery-with-codeaquote/

lee n. field · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2019, 04:02:25 PM »

I think it's funny. Almost makes me wish I was on Twizzler, so I could get banned.

BlueStarLizzard · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:46:33 PM »

Quote from: lee n. field on January 28, 2019, 04:02:25 PM

I think it's funny. Almost makes me wish I was on Twizzler, so I could get banned.

Yep. I think it's funny too.

And, yes, it's juvenile, which is why it's so very appropriate.

BobR · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2019, 06:54:56 PM »

Quote from: bluestarlizzard on January 28, 2019, 06:46:33 PM

Yep. I think it's funny too.

And, yes, it's juvenile, which is why it's so very appropriate.

We are all just 12 year olds trapped in much older bodies when you think about it. My wife is always telling me to act my age. I have never been this old, I don't know how to act. 12 OTOH I have been and know how to do.

bob

Ben · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2019, 09:05:07 AM »

Man, journalists are crybabies. Acosta must have held a "Dear Diary" class.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/02/05/omg-are-you-ok-nbc-journo-bravely-speaks-of-reporting-people-for-tweeting-learn-to-code-tells-others-not-to-be-silent/

WLJ · « **Reply #22 on:** February 05, 2019, 09:26:14 AM »

Learn to coal

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Author Topic: Newest Twitter Ban: "Learn to Code" (Read 1850 times)