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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21210441-36398,00.html#

I think the adult stem cell vs embryonic stem cell research debate has tilted in favor of "adult.*"

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Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs

By John Stapleton

February 12, 2007 09:06am
Article from: The Australian


WOMEN may be able to undergo a "natural" form of breast enlargement using their own stem cells and fat.
The technique, pioneered in Japan, results in breasts that look and feel smoother than conventional cosmetic surgery using implants.

Stem cells, which have the potential to change into any cells in the body, are found in embryos, but the most plentiful supply in adults is from body fat. When body fat is transferred to the breasts, the stem cells enable the fat to grow its own blood supply, thus becoming an integral part of the breast rather than a foreign object.

Dozens of women in Japan have received the enlargements during trials. This month, German authorities gave approval to the process. Under EU rules, this means that the procedure is now legal throughout Europe, including Britain.

But Australian women may have to wait for the procedure to become widely available because of litigation concerns.

Michael Zacharia, president of the Australasian College of Cosmetic Surgery, said the technique could make the detection of subsequent breast cancer more difficult.

While the procedure "gives a very nice natural result", he said it could be hard to determine whether changes occurring in a breast were as a result of cancer or the fat transfer.

"Medical insurance companies just refuse to cover it," he said.

In a separate development, scientists have unearthed a genetic mutation that gives one in four women a small shield against breast cancer.

This is the first concrete discovery of a common gene linked to the disease, and is the biggest breast cancer find since two rare and high-risk genes were identified a decade ago.

Australian researchers contributed to the international study which found a genetic variation that gives some women a 10 per cent reduced risk of breast cancer.

Everyone has the gene, called Caspase 8, but 25 per cent of women of European descent have a mutated variation which gives them a little protection. And 2 per cent have two variations, giving them twice the defence.

Leader of the Australian research arm, Georgia Chenevix-Trench from the Queensland Institute of Medical Research, said confirmation of a low-risk gene for breast cancer was significant.

It has no immediate implications for women already diagnosed with breast cancer, but Dr Chenevix-Trench said researchers expected to unearth similar genes which women could eventually be screened for.

"After that we can start to think about testing protocols to see whether it's worth identifying women who have multiple variants," Dr Chenevix-Trench said.

The results are published in the journal Nature Genetics.

Additional reporting:

AAP, The Times




*  Adult stem cells have produced several viable treatments and embryonic has produced bupkis.
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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2007, 07:28:57 AM »
Where do I sign up for quality control?

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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2007, 07:42:33 AM »
Fan-frickin'-tastic.

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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2007, 08:00:08 AM »
Excellent!

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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2007, 08:09:23 AM »
Excellent news. Naturals are best.

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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2007, 09:01:20 AM »
I don't care how good the imitation is, there will always be connoisseurs who won't settle for anything less than an unaltered original. 

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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2007, 10:42:40 AM »
Yeah, but they'll still see the effects of gravity and age - good old DuPont silicone enhancements still stand proud even after death from old age.  Okay, maybe that's why you want this new proceedure?  The girl of your dreams might have two less serial numbers/batch lots contributing to that "perfect look?"

After all, you still get to be worried when she sneezes, and while most of her face doesn't move, there's that disconcerting kick from her left leg. . .

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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2007, 11:03:43 AM »
Some sagging is natural and sexy, IMO. The current impossible criteria for perkiness make many augmented women look like Martian bodybuilders. I myself am a proponent of classical beauty - plenty of curves at the right places, including a bit of sag!

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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2007, 01:43:43 PM »
CA,

I too support natural beauty. Especially when it comes via my 20 year old female classmates who have nothing better to do than make themselves hot.

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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2007, 02:14:39 PM »
CA,

I too support natural beauty. Especially when it comes via my 20 year old female classmates who have nothing better to do than make themselves hot.

I do look foward to summer on the University Campus  grin
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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2007, 02:04:03 AM »
Yeah, but they'll still see the effects of gravity and age - good old DuPont silicone enhancements still stand proud even after death from old age.  Okay, maybe that's why you want this new proceedure?  The girl of your dreams might have two less serial numbers/batch lots contributing to that "perfect look?"

After all, you still get to be worried when she sneezes, and while most of her face doesn't move, there's that disconcerting kick from her left leg. . .

 grin
Having spent much time in gyms moving iron against gravity, I have seen quite a few fitness gals with pretty much no body fat sporting the mammary equivlent to Glock Fotays (hard, plastic, and unnatural) upstairs.  IMO, the implants look a mite unfriendly.

Call me a traditionalist, but stuffing plastic & silicone where Nature's God never intended it to go is the wrong answer on so many levels (with exception for therapeutic and reconstructive purposes).  The article's procedure seems less risky for gals who want to flaunt some "false advertising."

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2007, 02:41:34 AM »
This thread is worthless without pics  laugh

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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2007, 05:42:40 AM »
Cool! They don't have to put any babies in the blender to have larger lifelike tits!
Or be forced to take a lifetime supply of anti-tissue rejection drugs if they did use fetal stem cells.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2007, 06:34:43 AM »
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*  Adult stem cells have produced several viable treatments and embryonic has produced bupkis.

So... we should give up on all areas of scientific research that have not yet produced mass-marketable results?  Goodbye, civilization.
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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2007, 09:45:04 AM »
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*  Adult stem cells have produced several viable treatments and embryonic has produced bupkis.

So... we should give up on all areas of scientific research that have not yet produced mass-marketable results?  Goodbye, civilization.
I do not think any presciptive comments were made in my posts.  You are welcome to read in a novel's worth (as you have, what with the "Goodbye civlization" comment  rolleyes ), though, as this is still America.

But, hey, let's debate what the dearth of progress WRT embryonic stem cell (ESC) treatments, and the increasing number (not just bust size!) of therapeutic uses adult stem cells (ASC) might mean.

I'll go first:
From a betting perspective, a venture capitalist likes to see some results before tossing seed monies at a startup company.  The effect of this may be to starve ESC research of VC monies.  I think this perfectly resonable.  "A bird in the hand beats two in the bush," as it were.

Anybody else?
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2007, 12:01:50 PM »
Embryonic stem cell research is more about politics than science.
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2007, 12:55:55 PM »
i never got the idea of how bigger is better. no matter how young and perky, big just isn't as good! i'm a medium, middle ground, grey area kinda guy. i don't like 'em too big.

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2007, 01:00:53 PM »
I'm with you.  There is such a thing as too big.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2007, 01:45:00 PM »
Before I come to any conclusions I would have to closely examine the results myself. angel
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2007, 02:47:25 PM »
As a guy who has yet to see a pair of boobs that are too big, I'd say this is some of the best news I've ever heard.  grin
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2007, 09:14:22 PM »
Not just bigger, but more ergonomic:  She could have a second pair grow out the back, to even out the strain on the spine.  That and to make big hugs even better!   grin
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2007, 09:37:21 PM »
Nice posts. I'm sure that Barbara and other females will want to reply.  undecided

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2007, 10:08:39 PM »
Nice posts. I'm sure that Barbara and other females will want to reply.  undecided

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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2007, 03:41:03 AM »
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Stem cells, which have the potential to change into any cells in the body, are found in embryos, but the most plentiful supply in adults is from body fat.
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Re: Adult Stem Cell Research: Stem cells used for 'natural' boob jobs
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2007, 08:31:49 AM »
They're using your own cells, only she should see her own name. 

That said, anyone else getting tired of the too easy and too often made Rosie/Hillary jokes?  Not trying to slam ya Hank but they aren't really "funny" or clever anymore, they're just obvious insults and everyone here agrees that we don't like those two.  What's the point anymore?

Anyway, fetal stem cell research is being done all over the world, not just in the US, and is still being done in the US by private companies with private money.  All that is happening is no tax money is going toward it, which is how it should be, regardless of moral feelings.

As was suggested, if real promise was being shown anywhere it is being researched, venture capital would be climbing all over it to get in on the money when a treatment arises.  If even the speculators aren't backing it (and these folks back anything that might maybe could possibly even someday make a buck) then there probably isn't much there.

If we are going to spend tax money on research on a practical basis we should concentrate on the morally uncontroversial AND demonstrably productive adult cell research.  If the private guys worldwide find a cure with fetal cells we can always jump on board then (though we won't have to, because the private money will flow like water).
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