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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #126 on: August 20, 2019, 08:43:51 PM »
I think the count is higher than five now. Two more quit today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/first-on-cnn-more-nra-leaders-step-down-amid-spending-controversy/ar-AAG4s3g?li=BBnbfcL&OCID=AVRES000

I hate all of those mealy-mouth excuses for quitting.  Just tell the truth: LaPierre, et. al., are driving the NRA into the ground. 
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #127 on: August 20, 2019, 09:21:57 PM »
I hate all of those mealy-mouth excuses for quitting.  Just tell the truth: LaPierre, et. al., are driving the NRA into the ground. 

I'm finding those interesting. I think (IMO) it's pretty obvious why they are quitting: Either directly because of Wayne, or fear of getting dragged down with negative publicity when this all blows up. You'd think they would want to say that though, for the good of the organization. I almost tinfoily kinda wonder what dirt Wayne has on everyone. Did he get the NRA secret police to videotape everyone on the board in compromising positions and that's why they're all giving these "I'm too busy" lines?
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #128 on: August 20, 2019, 09:38:12 PM »
They're dropping quicker than Clinton business associates
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #129 on: August 20, 2019, 10:27:51 PM »
I'm finding those interesting. I think (IMO) it's pretty obvious why they are quitting: Either directly because of Wayne, or fear of getting dragged down with negative publicity when this all blows up. You'd think they would want to say that though, for the good of the organization. I almost tinfoily kinda wonder what dirt Wayne has on everyone. Did he get the NRA secret police to videotape everyone on the board in compromising positions and that's why they're all giving these "I'm too busy" lines?

I mentioned this in the TFL thread on the same topic.  I think they are leaving because they mistakenly believe doing so absolves them of their fiduciary responsibility while they were board members.  (I didn't say this on TFL but I can see board members potentially going to prison over Wayne's embezzlements.  while Wayne walks)
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #130 on: August 20, 2019, 11:32:35 PM »
I imagine the NYState AG is planning to go after each of the board members with subpoenas.  Not to mention there may be NY State laws saying the Board of Directors is held responsible for maintaining oversight of the organization.
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #132 on: September 27, 2019, 12:26:21 PM »
More concerning news for the NRA, comrades:

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR23fDSahjsxqlG8iYI5qIAOqbmU9Ml-VztBlEYneg1HuXswx7Tio25mEJo&fbclid=IwAR135Sg92FDCUAaQi37KBlvmvWiLhuGoadCXG8zVRxWR_j6D2lxIHM-t3q0&fbclid=IwAR2VAazOd0AZvt2vYhCCvXvvYvklCpFB1JW1S-6S0HKEaMGJUnq_ryZ7LnE&fbclid=IwAR3-Y1wOSVGmuKm2S2X4vu3NYJ3BD1_Uq73hH_EX4dGvl-2UPyzBARfF1_U


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In the Republicans' analysis of Wyden's report, the majority argued that it does not account for U.S.-Russia relations at the time and contains "much conclusory innuendo... and repeatedly attempts to paint a picture that does not exist."
I would probably assume what this quote says without seeing it stated in the article.  Needs a lot more hard details to throw around accusations.  However, what it said about the Russian side trying to use it as an opportunity to get access to US elected officials at NRA events wouldn't surprise me too much.  Probably a lot of that stuff goes on in D.C. with a lot of organizations. 
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #133 on: September 27, 2019, 12:29:33 PM »
I seem to recall them calling the NRA a Russian operation some years ago because they found a member, one out of 5 million, who happened to be a Russian citizen who had donated something like $15
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #134 on: September 27, 2019, 12:31:54 PM »
Given the source, my knee-jerk reaction is that it's just another instance of presumed-outcome exposition developed by taking limited, disparate data points and filtering them through a burning desire to tarnish all things conservative.

That being said, the way internal NRA things are going now, I wouldn't put it past them to pull a stunt this stupid.

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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #135 on: September 27, 2019, 02:54:19 PM »
What I am thinking is not that they would pull a stupid stunt, but they would be oblivious to being used.  
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #136 on: September 27, 2019, 08:41:23 PM »
What am thinking is not that they would pull a stupid stunt, but that they would be oblivious to being used.  

Pretty much this.  Let my membership lapse earlier this year after the idiocy began.  Not going to renew it anytime soon despite urgent messages from Wayne that I need to do so to save the Republic or the 2nd Amendment or Idiocracy or whatever.
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #137 on: September 30, 2019, 03:21:48 PM »
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/30/with-the-help-of-media-democrats-are-smearing-the-nra/

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National Public Radio’s Tim Mak has been on the NRA-is-a-Russian-front beat for some time now. You may find a journalistic project predicated on a determined outcome a bit odd, but that’s how things seem to work these days.

The latest article in the series is headlined “NRA Was ‘Foreign Asset’ To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals,” and it reads like a partisan talking points memo, with not a single hint of skepticism to be found anywhere. The “report” itself, written by Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, is larded with suspenseful prose that works to create the impression that completely legal and innocuous interactions are part of a nefarious plot. The only thing it “reveals” is that Senate Democrats have no qualms leveling tendentious claims and spreading conspiracy theories.
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2019, 02:04:46 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/magazine/wayne-lapierre-nra-guns.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=The%20New%20York%20Times%20Magazine

Mr. LaPierre speaks.

That's a pretty exhaustive article. To me, it doesn't do much of anything to enhance LaPierre's image. It makes it clear that he is not out to protect the NRA, he's out to protect Wayne LaPierre. He takes credit for anything good that happened, but anything bad was somebody else's fault. And the bit about the executive VICE president telling the president of the organization to "back off" is mind-boggling. I have served on the boards of more than one non-profit organization. I can't imagine any executive VP telling the president of the board of directors to, in essence, shove it.

I remain of the opinion that LaPierre must go. As to Brewer -- I thought he had a conflict of interest before, suing a company partially owned by his father-in-law. I didn't know the father-in-law had died in July. That leaves a new question: Did Brewer's wife inherit a stake in AckMac? Is he now effectively suing his own wife? How is that not a conflict of interest?
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Re: Lots of problems going on with the NRA right now
« Reply #140 on: December 19, 2019, 02:30:25 PM »
While he is still able to charge things to the NRA, Mr. LaPierre would be well advised to hire a criminal defense attorney for if and when criminal misappropriation of funds charges come down from New York.
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