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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2019, 09:13:58 AM »
The Wall Street Journal reports on the firearm used - apparently an SBR with brace. They were unclear on if it was home built or not. Considering the guy was apparently very anti-gun, I find the firearm used interesting. How many anti-gunners would build a gun? Or would buy a rather expensive gun from Anderson (prices on their website seem to hover close to $1000) versus one of the more well-known manufacturers?

It was also interesting the way the WSJ talked about the brace. It was almost a bump stock like commentary, as if the brace would be of more benefit than a standard stock.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/dayton-shooter-used-ar-15-pistol-smaller-version-of-popular-rifle-11565045046


Edit: Shoot. Apologies. Weirdly, I can read the whole WSJ article on my phone, but on my desktop, WSJ wants me to pay.

Edit again: I found an NBC story written in a similar vein:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dayton-shooter-s-gun-called-orchestra-metal-hellfire-n1039476
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2019, 11:20:04 AM »
Yes, he has.  I saw a piece on that a few months ago.  The TAPS act is garbage and should be thrown away along with the PATRIOT act.

What is  "The TAPS Act??" ???
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2019, 11:28:48 AM »
What is  "The TAPS Act??" ???

The thought police..... and you thought that was fiction didn't you?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/838/text


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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2019, 11:39:57 AM »
What I heard about it was more hearsay than anything.  It sounded like it would let them create and maintain essentially a psyche profile on everyone in the US.  How they would use it I do not know.
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2019, 07:39:00 AM »
Damned if you do, damned if you don't

Booker: I Don’t Welcome Trump’s Statement on Condemning Bigotry – Healing Starts With Saying ‘I’ve Made Mistakes’
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/08/05/booker-i-dont-welcome-trumps-statement-on-condemning-bigotry-healing-starts-with-saying-ive-made-mistakes/

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If he doesn't go to El Paso the Dems will then say he doesn't care

Beto O’Rourke Tells Trump: Stay out of El Paso
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/05/beto-orourke-calls-on-trump-not-to-visit-el-paso-he-has-no-place-here/

Meh. Robert is no longer the representative for El Paso.
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2019, 08:58:43 AM »
Meh. Robert is no longer the representative for El Paso.

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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2019, 09:09:06 AM »
So, is Warren to blame now?


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In less than 24 hours, we had two brutal mass shootings. In all, 31 people have been killed and scores more injured. In El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, two armed nutjobs executed senseless acts of carnage. The political games began almost immediately. El Paso was committed by a white supremacist, whose anti-immigrant views were just as explicit as his apparent adherence to eco-terrorism. In Dayton, the shooter, Connor Betts, a disturbed individual who had kill and rape lists of his classmates, was an avowed leftist, who backed Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), gun control, and supported the left-wing extremist group Antifa. These aren’t necessarily clear-cut cases of white supremacist violence, which the media has tried to force-feed down our throats. There’s loads of nuance.
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2019, 12:28:38 PM »
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2019, 03:04:35 PM »
No. The shooter didn't self-identify as Native American, so Ms. Warren is off the hook.

And off the reservation.
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« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2019, 03:19:11 PM »
"Background checks like we've never had before". That doesn't sound like making America great again.

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Hopefully that's just platitudes to the masses, but time will tell. I'm just hoping it doesn't screw me up right after I moved to America. In Idaho, if you have a carry permit, you can skip the background check on purchases. With my luck, an "improved" background check will outlaw that. Though I assume individual states may still have some rights/workarounds regarding any new background check rules.
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2019, 03:22:37 PM »
And off the reservation.

She was never on it.
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2019, 03:40:26 PM »
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-michael-berry-show-27764850/

I heard an interview with Dan Crenshaw yesterday.  It was the PM show on 8/6 at the link (2nd hour).  He didn't stay on long.  He was asked about his support for red flag laws and the TAPS act.  I wasn't really satisfied with his answers.  I don't know if he just didn't want to get into the details or if he didn't have time.  All he really said about the TAPS act was it was just federal grants and none of things you have heard about it are true.  He did not talk about what the grants are for.   
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2019, 04:46:39 PM »
Dayton shooter was armed counter-protester at Ku Klux Klan rally

And... this page has already been taken down.  Didn't support the narrative, I guess.
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« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2019, 04:51:49 PM »
And... this page has already been taken down.  Didn't support the narrative, I guess.

My bad..try it again.
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« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2019, 04:55:29 PM »
So it was you who wasn't supporting the narrative.
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« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2019, 05:35:04 PM »
No *expletive deleted*s given about the narrative.  President is now ready to sell out our rights too.  
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2019, 06:57:12 PM »
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2019, 08:04:12 PM »
Talking about his gun of choice.  The drum mag was already illegal in Ohio.  Mags capable of holding more than 30 rounds become a "destructive device" under Ohio law when fully loaded, and are a felony to possess.  Yeah, I know.  Dumb law.  But it's why I only load 30 rounds in my Glock 9mm extended play mags.  ;)
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2019, 08:43:19 PM »
Talking about his gun of choice.  The drum mag was already illegal in Ohio.  Mags capable of holding more than 30 rounds become a "destructive device" under Ohio law when fully loaded, and are a felony to possess.  Yeah, I know.  Dumb law.  But it's why I only load 30 rounds in my Glock 9mm extended play mags.  ;)

Didn't that get revised in 2015?  I don't have a link,  but IIRC it got fixed when they updated all the CCW stuff.
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« Reply #70 on: August 07, 2019, 09:21:03 PM »
Didn't that get revised in 2015?  I don't have a link,  but IIRC it got fixed when they updated all the CCW stuff.

You are correct HB234, in 2015, corrected that stupid law.

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/what-hb-234-means-you-part-iii-31-round-magazines-non-contiguous-transfers
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« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2019, 09:59:38 PM »
You are correct HB234, in 2015, corrected that stupid law.

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/what-hb-234-means-you-part-iii-31-round-magazines-non-contiguous-transfers

Oops.  Mea culpa. Glad to know my extended Glock mags are legal, at least for now.
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2019, 10:17:46 PM »
No *expletive deleted*s given about the narrative.  President is now ready to sell out our rights too.  


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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #73 on: August 08, 2019, 07:20:26 AM »
You must be new around here. This is Trump. We'll know what he does when he does it, and not before.

That applies to Trump himself, as well.
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Re: Dayton Ohio now
« Reply #74 on: August 08, 2019, 03:28:09 PM »
I don't know if any of you are in Kentucky and can vote for this guy.
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Some have asked, “who needs 100 rounds?”

If 6 brave, trained, and alert police officers with professionally maintained weapons fired 58 rounds to subdue the Dayton shooter,

I’d say my wife deserves at least that many chances to protect herself and my kids when I’m not home.
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