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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #125 on: February 27, 2025, 04:36:56 PM »
FBI withheld ‘thousands of pages’ of Jeffrey Epstein docs, Pam Bondi says — and she’s demanding they be turned over
https://nypost.com/2025/02/27/us-news/fbi-withheld-thousands-of-pages-of-jeffrey-epstein-docs-bondi/

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The initial batch included flight logs, phone numbers and the names of victims, but a source in the FBI’s New York office reached out and said that hundreds additional documents were not included.

“By 8:00 a.m. tomorrow, February 28, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained,” Bondi said.

The FBI at 8am tomorrow: What files?
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #126 on: February 27, 2025, 09:06:10 PM »
See, the Chinese would simply take a couple Top Men out and shoot them. The rest would fall into line quickly.

 That's what's they did with the melamine in milk scandal- I doubt the Reds gave one sweet thing about the kids being killed by bad milk, but causing China to lose face? Whole 'nother story.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #127 on: February 27, 2025, 09:31:17 PM »
I can't figure out what the hell is going on with this release. First this thing with missing documents, but now what has been released is supposedly a nothingburger and it was only released to social media influencers and not the public? WTF?
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #128 on: February 27, 2025, 09:51:05 PM »
Quote from: Ben on February 27, 2025, 09:31:17 PM
I can't figure out what the hell is going on with this release. First this thing with missing documents, but now what has been released is supposedly a nothingburger and it was only released to social media influencers and not the public? WTF?

It was released to the public as well, just no one bothered to look because the Social Media people got cute binders.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-pamela-bondi-releases-first-phase-declassified-epstein-files

If the story is true thought, and those 200ish pages are all the FBI gave the AG when she asked for the files,  people need to be fired.  If files or evidence has been destroyed in NY while they jerked her around with this crap, agents need to be indicted.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #129 on: February 27, 2025, 09:54:03 PM »
They need to be doorkicked, flashbanged, and if they so much as twitch...
 
Thing is, who is gonna do that to the fibbies?
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #130 on: February 27, 2025, 09:55:34 PM »
Addendum to the above:

Several of the people that got the binder have uploaded full scans of everything they got as well.  So I don't understand why people were confused:  The WH gave the info to the press, who published it.  The DOJ also published it.  Isn't that how it normally goes when files are declassified? (minus the press taking selfies, I guess)

We are always talking about how MSM is dead, and the podcasters and SM folks are the press now.  So they got a press release.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #131 on: February 27, 2025, 09:57:15 PM »
Quote from: Bogie on February 27, 2025, 09:54:03 PM
They need to be doorkicked, flashbanged, and if they so much as twitch...
 
Thing is, who is gonna do that to the fibbies?

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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #132 on: February 27, 2025, 09:57:23 PM »
But the whole thing is something like a thousand pages. Not a chingada binder.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #133 on: February 27, 2025, 09:58:26 PM »
"We've got binders full of evidence."
 
Where have I heard something like that before?
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #134 on: February 27, 2025, 09:59:12 PM »
Quote from: Bogie on February 27, 2025, 09:57:23 PM
But the whole thing is something like a thousand pages. Not a chingada binder.

She doesn't have the whole thing.  The FBI did not deliver it to the AG.  There's a whole letter out there where she sicced Kash on the NY FBI and SDNY for not giving her what she asked for.  She can not release what she does not have.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #135 on: February 27, 2025, 10:03:44 PM »
True... And Pam sounds like she either wants the docs on her desk by opening in the morning, or she's gonna start collecting ears...
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #136 on: February 28, 2025, 12:14:18 AM »
Quote from: Bogie on February 27, 2025, 09:54:03 PM
They need to be doorkicked, flashbanged, and if they so much as twitch...
 
Thing is, who is gonna do that to the fibbies?

The US Marshals Service maybe?
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #137 on: February 28, 2025, 10:48:48 AM »
And... Did anything happen?
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #138 on: February 28, 2025, 11:10:36 AM »
Anyone seen Patel? Did they Jimmy Hoffa him?
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #139 on: February 28, 2025, 12:41:04 PM »
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After a thorough 3-minute investigation, the FBI announced that the highly anticipated Epstein list had shredded itself.

The list, which had long been purported to link human trafficker Jeffrey Epstein to elites around the globe and was allegedly so damning that it threatened to bring down Hollywood, Congress, and Prince Andrew, apparently shredded itself and no one at the FBI remembered what it said.

FBI Investigation Shows Epstein List Shredded Itself
https://babylonbee.com/news/fbi-investigation-shows-epstein-list-shredded-itself
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #140 on: March 03, 2025, 08:10:43 PM »
Guess the holdup is in NY?

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Benny Johnson
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🚨Kyle Seraphin just last week said Kash Patel needs to FLY to New York and DEMAND that Head of FBI NY James Dennehy hand over the Epstein files.

Dennehy has JUST NOW been forced to resign:

"Go to NY. Give the order to open the files. Get the answers."
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1896722273522130957

I'm starting to thinking there nothing left to turn over as it's all been destroyed
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #141 on: March 03, 2025, 11:36:08 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on March 03, 2025, 08:10:43 PM
Guess the holdup is in NY?
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1896722273522130957

I'm starting to thinking there nothing left to turn over as it's all been destroyed

Pam Bondi was quoted on Fox News today that a "truckload" of documents was delivered from SDNY by the 8:00 AM deadline.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #142 on: March 04, 2025, 01:03:46 PM »
I figure they had a bunch of bodies combing them until they had the deadline of throwing them on the truck...
 
Now, I figure it is gonna be pretty messy cleaning up after they shred the personnel who went through them...
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #143 on: March 04, 2025, 03:26:25 PM »
Quote from: RocketMan on March 03, 2025, 11:36:08 PM
Pam Bondi was quoted on Fox News today that a "truckload" of documents was delivered from SDNY by the 8:00 AM deadline.
Benny Johnson is normally a bit of an R cheerleader, but even he said something along the lines of believing it when it is released. 
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #144 on: March 04, 2025, 03:47:15 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on March 04, 2025, 03:26:25 PM
Benny Johnson is normally a bit of an R cheerleader, but even he said something along the lines of believing it when it is released.

That's kind of where I am.  I'm willing to give Bondi the benefit of the doubt with regards to redacting innocent victims' names and the names of people that did not travel to Lolita Island.  Supposedly there were some folks that just hitched convenient rides on Epstein's jet to places in CONUS without being aware of or engaging his pedo services.  That stuff takes time.  We'll see.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #145 on: March 04, 2025, 03:49:54 PM »
Quote from: RocketMan on March 04, 2025, 03:47:15 PM
I'm willing to give Bondi the benefit of the doubt
I'm willing to let her prove herself, but that's as far as I'll go for her.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #146 on: March 04, 2025, 05:03:40 PM »
The problem is she *expletive deleted*ed it up so bad with a promised release, then a binder of nothing, and then the letter.  Her story is (I guess) that she gave the order, thought the binder of nothing was really all the files (Is she retarded?  Even I know an indictment like this takes more than 200 pages) and the whistleblower told her about the extra files after she had already announced the release, so she went ahead with the binder.

If that's the story, she's going to need to perp walk someone from NY, Preferably the guy she just fired.  She also needs to publicly release the shredder logs (Yes that's something feds do now, thanks COL. North) and if the shredder logs look fishy she needs to perp walk whomever was in charge of that room.

THis went too far for an "oops, we messed up" memo.
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #147 on: April 26, 2025, 07:13:48 AM »
Epstein didn't kill himself, but his primary accuser Virginia Giuffre, did.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-giuffre-jeffrey-epstein-prince-andrew-accuser-dead-41
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Re: Epstein Didn't Kill Himself
« Reply #148 on: April 26, 2025, 11:43:42 AM »
Quote from: K Frame on April 26, 2025, 07:13:48 AM
Epstein didn't kill himself, but his primary accuser Virginia Giuffre, did.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-giuffre-jeffrey-epstein-prince-andrew-accuser-dead-41

Even when mourning someone, the media just can't tell the whole story.

Less than a month ago, Ms. Giuffre was seriously injured in an automobile accident and given four days to live. It seems she lived more than four days and apparently was released from the hospital, but it's likely that her suicide was an escape from her pain and medical issues more than a result of her experiences with Epstein and Randy Andy.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yl5vle2nmo

And then there's this, from the article K Frame linked:

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"It is with utterly broken hearts that we announce that Virginia passed away last night at her farm in Western Australia," her family said in a statement to NBC News. "She lost her life to suicide, after being a lifelong victim of sexual abuse and sex trafficking."

Really? A "lifelong" victim of sexual abuse and sex trafficking? I don't think that's quite accurate.

From Wikipedia: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yl5vle2nmo

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In September 2002, at the age of 19, Giuffre flew to Thailand and attended the International Training Massage School in Chiang Mai. Maxwell provided her with tickets to travel to Thailand, and instructed her to meet with a specific Thai girl to bring her back to the United States for Epstein.[36] While at the massage school in Thailand in 2002, she met Robert Giuffre, an Australian martial arts trainer, and the two married quickly thereafter. She contacted Epstein and informed him that she would not be returning as planned. She and her husband started a life and family in Australia, and Giuffre broke off contact with Epstein and Maxwell. For five years, Giuffre and her husband lived a quiet life in Australia with their young children.
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