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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #350 on: February 11, 2020, 07:36:24 PM »
Yeap you guys are screwed.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #351 on: February 11, 2020, 08:23:08 PM »
Quote from: Ben on February 11, 2020, 07:02:41 PM
Geez - to top it off, the VA house passed the "Whatever CA and NY say" popular vote bill as well.

They are trying to provoke somebody, *anybody*, to go on a shooting rampage, which they will blame on all Republicans to set up stage two.  Stage two involves a shooting war between anyone who's not a liberal Democrat (conservative Democrats are not exempt) and the police, so it's kind of a win-win for the Democrat party because they hate the police too.  The war will be instigated by sending SWAT teams and other jackbooted thugs to kick in the doors of gun owners and other wrong-thinkers, and a few wrong addresses just to spice things up.

I'm serious about this, but I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #352 on: February 11, 2020, 08:28:03 PM »
Quote from: zxcvbob on February 11, 2020, 08:23:08 PM
They are trying to provoke somebody, *anybody*, to go on a shooting rampage, which they will blame on all Republicans to set up stage two.  Stage two involves a shooting war between anyone who's not a liberal Democrat (conservative Democrats are not exempt) and the police, so it's kind of a win-win for the Democrat party because they hate the police too.  The war will be instigated by sending SWAT teams and other jackbooted thugs to kick in the doors of gun owners and other wrong-thinkers, and a few wrong addresses just to spice things up.

I'm serious about this, but I hope I'm wrong.

https://billstclair.com/absolved/absolved.html

Very long but goes into why, although the Democrats might want things to go that way, it probably won't turn out like they hope, long term.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #353 on: February 11, 2020, 08:55:10 PM »
I've read his stuff several years ago. Need to review.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #354 on: February 12, 2020, 07:53:08 AM »
Quote from: Ben on February 11, 2020, 05:48:25 PM
I'm sorry to report this, my VA friends. Believe me, I know how you feel.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/11/virginia-house-sends-gov-ralph-northams-assault-weapon-ban-on-to-the-senate/

It's now looking like Gov. Blackface's AWB could be in trouble in the Senate. Several Democrats have apparently heard their constituents and are saying they may not vote for it.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #355 on: February 12, 2020, 06:15:57 PM »
I reached out to my local Senator, Creigh Deeds. He lives here in the Allegheny Highlands but urban areas of his district and the generally well known suckiness of the VA republican machine keep him elected. In normal times he might be the kind of Dem I could vote for.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #356 on: February 12, 2020, 06:16:21 PM »
Democrat politicians listen to their conservative constituents?  Not happening.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #357 on: February 12, 2020, 06:25:13 PM »
From an alternate reality

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    “Later on in the [State of the Union] speech, when he got to the part about the Second Amendment and [Trump] said, ‘I will defend your Second Amendment rights, which are under attack and under siege all over this country,’ he’s saying to his followers that people like me want to attack the Second Amendment,” he continued. “And that’s just an absolute, brutal, disgusting, vicious lie. Under no circumstance, in no place in this country, is the Second Amendment under attack, and no legal, lawful gun owner feels the sting of gun safety measures that are being proposed.”

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Guttenberg: Gun Rights Aren’t Under Attack Anywhere in the U.S.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/guttenberg-gun-rights-arent-under-attack-anywhere-in-the-u-s/
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #358 on: February 12, 2020, 06:59:38 PM »
"...no legal, lawful gun owner feels the sting of gun safety measures that are being proposed.”


Yeah. It's only the newly-minted felons whose guns have been outlawed that feel the sting. The guy with the flintlock rifle is just fine.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #359 on: February 13, 2020, 07:29:18 AM »
To the left it's obvious that gun rights aren't under attack. Because, to the left, there are no such thing as gun rights. Problem solved for them.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #360 on: February 13, 2020, 07:58:40 AM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin on February 13, 2020, 07:29:18 AM
To the left it's obvious that gun rights aren't under attack. Because, to the left, there are no such thing as gun rights. Problem solved for them.

It's HUNTING rights, you deplorable baby killers! We're not taking your HUNTING rights, as long as you don't use anything but a musket to do your evil hunting.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #361 on: February 13, 2020, 08:16:21 AM »
Quote from: Ben on February 13, 2020, 07:58:40 AM
It's HUNTING rights, you deplorable baby killers! We're not taking your HUNTING rights, as long as you don't use anything but a musket to do your evil hunting.

If the 2A is about hunting rights then why do we have to get hunting licenses?
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #362 on: February 13, 2020, 08:17:35 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on February 13, 2020, 08:16:21 AM
If the 2A is about hunting rights then why do we have to get hunting licenses?

BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE LIVING CONSTITUTION BAMBI KILLER!!!
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #363 on: February 13, 2020, 08:19:16 AM »
Quote from: Ben on February 13, 2020, 08:17:35 AM
BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE LIVING CONSTITUTION BAMBI KILLER!!!

Living? I thought the dems had it aborted a long time ago
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #364 on: February 17, 2020, 09:36:51 AM »
Looks like the "assault weapons" ban has been temporarily shelved:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/virginia-lawmakers-reject-assault-weapon-ban
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #365 on: February 19, 2020, 09:07:00 PM »
Quote from: Ben on February 17, 2020, 09:36:51 AM
Looks like the "assault weapons" ban has been temporarily shelved:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/virginia-lawmakers-reject-assault-weapon-ban

great news - now lets hope scotus pulls off another surprise and we get strict scrutiny
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #366 on: April 11, 2020, 07:17:59 PM »
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #367 on: April 11, 2020, 08:08:00 PM »
Virginia has one term governors, so he's out no matter what.

I'm hoping that this helps the Republicans take back at least one of the houses, but the state has changed dramatically in the last 10 or so years. It's become FAR more liberal than it was when I moved here back in 1993.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #368 on: February 02, 2024, 04:04:43 PM »
Yeah, you're screwed
And the people who voted for this will be the ones most effected

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    The Virginia House of Delegates now has a Democrat majority.

    Their first order of business? Passing a bill to reduce prison sentences for violent crimes.

    They even denied the families of victims from being able to testify in person.
    pic.twitter.com/u5Dd0ZUv7h
    — Greg Price (@greg_price11) February 1, 2024
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/02/02/virginia-house-of-delegates-crime-n2392495

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #369 on: February 03, 2024, 10:33:12 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on February 02, 2024, 04:04:43 PM
Yeah, you're screwed
And the people who voted for this will be the ones most effected
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/02/02/virginia-house-of-delegates-crime-n2392495

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What are the details of this bills (not in video)?
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #370 on: February 04, 2024, 09:55:15 AM »
Quote from: Perd Hapley on November 17, 2019, 05:45:13 PM
How do you propose we replace our constitution?

Replacing the constitution is not required to make progress. Changing to open primaries (and changing a lot of things about the primary process), changing to ranked voting, term limits, limitations on conflicts of interest, etc. can all be done without changing the constitution.

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #371 on: February 04, 2024, 10:06:53 AM »
Quote from: zahc on February 04, 2024, 09:55:15 AM
changing to ranked voting,

I continue to see this come up in various arenas, and so far, the only places I've seen it "work" is for the minority party in the particular jurisdiction by creating an at best, "milquetoast" candidate for the opposing party. It just seems like a lowest common denominator solution to me. I still haven't seen how it could help a third party candidate. I'm open to examples and learning.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #372 on: February 04, 2024, 10:49:37 AM »
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It just seems like a lowest common denominator solution to me

That plus marketing is what democracy is,
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #373 on: February 04, 2024, 11:33:16 AM »
Ranked choice would ensure Virginia is forever done.
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