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The Tesla cybertruck
« on: November 22, 2019, 08:28:08 AM »
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2019, 08:30:41 AM »
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2019, 08:33:30 AM »
I kinda like it. Looks like something that would be used on Mars.

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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2019, 09:00:59 AM »
I am reading comments elsewhere that it will likely sell well amongst the techbros of Silicon Valley, Seattle and other urban tech hubs.  This is probably correct. 
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2019, 09:22:12 AM »
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A demonstration of the vehicle’s “armor glass” did not appear to go so smoothly. Metal balls hurled at the car cracked two windows — though it did not completely shatter.
Isn't that what bullet resistant glass is supposed to do?
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2019, 09:27:18 AM »
No mention of towing capacity or weight capacity.  Or the range of the vehicle when loaded or pulling a boat.  Anyone see pictures of other angles?  The bed looks more than an SUV rear storage rather than a pickup bed.  I want to know if someone can load up a refrigerator or some plywood to take home.


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Rivian, a startup based near Detroit, plans to begin production in the second half of 2020 on an electric pickup that starts at $69,000 and has a battery range of 400-plus miles (643.7-kilometers). The Rivian truck will be able to tow 11,000 pounds (4,989.5 kilograms), go from zero to 60 mph (96.6 kph) in three seconds and wade into 3 feet (0.91 meters) of water, the company said. Ford said in April it would invest $500 million in Rivian.
This one they at least stated load capacities, but they didn't say it would do 400 miles while loaded or towing. 
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2019, 10:20:24 AM »
No mention of towing capacity or weight capacity.  Or the range of the vehicle when loaded or pulling a boat.  Anyone see pictures of other angles?  The bed looks more than an SUV rear storage rather than a pickup bed.  I want to know if someone can load up a refrigerator or some plywood to take home.

This one they at least stated load capacities, but they didn't say it would do 400 miles while loaded or towing. 

https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2019, 10:22:28 AM »
I don't like the look of it.  It is neither retro nor futuristic.  It looks like a Delorean mated with a pine wood derby car.

I have a slim hope that this is all an elaborate prank and the real truck will be unveiled later.  The smashed glass is really just computer screens displaying fake cracks.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2019, 10:48:46 AM »
That will be an enthusiast's car. It's not a truck. It's more like a Chevy Avalanche where you can throw a few sports or camping related things in the back, or a few sacks of home despot mulch. Nobody's going to be hauling lumber or sacks of concrete or loads tp the dump with it.

Nothing wrong with that if it's what you want, but it's a recreational vehicle.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2019, 10:53:59 AM »
It looks like they tried to restyle a Pontiac Aztec...
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2019, 10:58:13 AM »
Truck looks like what you'd get if a couple of 9 year olds with cardboard and duct tape were told to dress up a toy car.

I live just west of Austin, TX, and see quite a few Teslas on local roads. I was surprised yesterday when I saw one with OREGON license plates! Unless the vehicle was trucked down here, I suppose there must actually be a network of charging stations in existence.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2019, 11:04:25 AM »
I am reading comments elsewhere that it will likely sell well amongst the techbros of Silicon Valley, Seattle and other urban tech hubs.  This is probably correct. 

This could make sense if the price were higher. TechBros don't go for things that cost a mere $40k.

I don't know about US, but it will never sell in Europe without extensive redesign. The DOT is incompetent, but the European regulators will never let it on the road.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2019, 11:06:54 AM »
https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

https://drivetribe.com/p/tesla-cybertruck-a-blocky-beast-KkcnGqOnSpKbkJklNN7cCw?iid=HSTpfPsSQW2EhjITlUK3Jg

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The Single Motor RWD accelerates from 0-60 in under 6.5 seconds, has a range of 250 miles or more and can tow over 7500 pounds of weight. It costs at least $39900.

The Dual Motor AWD accelerates from 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds, has a range of 300 miles or more and can tow over 10000 pounds of weight. It costs at least $49900.

The Tri-Motor AWD accelerates from 0-60 in under 2.9 seconds, has a range of 500 miles or more and can tow over 14000 pounds of weight. It costs at least $69900.
I am curious what the range is at full tow weight.  Maybe I am just suspicious about the stated range.  It would be pretty cool if it could do that range under load.

Do campgrounds typically have electricity to plug in?  
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2019, 11:29:18 AM »
This could make sense if the price were higher. TechBros don't go for things that cost a mere $40k.

They will buy the tri-motor model at $ 70K.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2019, 11:34:30 AM »

I live just west of Austin, TX, and see quite a few Teslas on local roads. I was surprised yesterday when I saw one with OREGON license plates! Unless the vehicle was trucked down here, I suppose there must actually be a network of charging stations in existence.

https://www.tesla.com/supercharger

They are building out a nationwide network along the major freeways.  I have been interested to see them built in this area.  The three closest to me are: In a casino parking lot along I-5 70 miles south of the Canadian border; in a Walmart parking lot along I-5 30 miles north of Seattle; and in a Fred Meyer parking lot along Highway 2 (the northern east-west highway in Washington).
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2019, 11:36:18 AM »
Do campgrounds typically have electricity to plug in?  

Depends on the campground.  I'm sure some of the nice campgrounds have electricity and I bet a few have superchargers at the site or nearby.  You can charge a Tesla with a 120v outlet, it just takes a long time.

I know Tesla has a bunch of supercharges across the country.  Enough to drive coast to coast on a variety of routes.  Many hotels now offer some type of EV charging to their guests.

My FIL lives in Texas and has a Tesla S.  He has driven it to California, Idaho, Colorado many times.  As long as he plans the route, he can make it just fine.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2019, 12:07:30 PM »
Am I correct in my recollection that American electric vehicles do not have a common charging interface and therefore cannot use any electric charging station?
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2019, 12:29:14 PM »
As an actual truck for, you know, work, it's a turd. As a VYH (Virtue-Signaling Yuppie HipsterMobile), it's perfect.

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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2019, 01:08:50 PM »
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2019, 01:16:11 PM »
Am I correct in my recollection that American electric vehicles do not have a common charging interface and therefore cannot use any electric charging station?

I think you are. Around here the Sheetz stations started putting in Tesla chargers. In the 60s guys hung out at the gas station in their hot rods and smoked marlboros. I saw the modern equivalent, guy charging his Tesla and vaping. THat's it, send the meteor.

They are at walmarts too, and I know the owners find stations by the app, but if there is a charger anywhere else a tesla jockey isn't going to walmart. Dumb business decision, they will never get the investment back.

I consider a business out here in the middle of nowhere with a charger. But sometime there will be a Tesla and Edison or a VHS and Betamax situation, a charging evolutionary dead end.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2019, 01:24:00 PM »
I think there are adapters for most charging stations. A Tesla guy showed me the bag of adapters in his trunk. As a worst case, you can plug into 120v outlet but I think it charges about 2 miles per hour. Supercharger is up to 1000 miles per hour.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2019, 01:41:55 PM »
"Am I correct in my recollection that American electric vehicles do not have a common charging interface and therefore cannot use any electric charging station?"

Not sure, but I believe that all Japanese electrics use one charger style, which is also used by, I think, Chevy...

Tesla has its own charger style, but it's got an adapter that allows it to charge pretty much anything out there...

https://ww.electrek.co/2017/06/20/tesla-j1772-adapter-electric-cars-destination-chargers/
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2019, 01:48:27 PM »
I think you are. Around here the Sheetz stations started putting in Tesla chargers. In the 60s guys hung out at the gas station in their hot rods and smoked marlboros. I saw the modern equivalent, guy charging his Tesla and vaping. THat's it, send the meteor.

My model 3 will smoke any of those hot rods.
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Re: The Tesla cybertruck
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2019, 02:06:19 PM »
I also thought I had read that the EU requires all electric vehicles sold in the EU to have a common charging interface, and I thought what a good idea that was.
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