Author Topic: Can you pass this "citizen test?" (Read 4843 times)

Sindawe · « **on:** March 01, 2007, 01:08:36 PM »

http://content.gannettonline.com/gns/citizenship/citizenship_trivia.html

Take the test, post your score and explain away your failure to score a perfect 12,000 points. grin

I scored 11,000 due to missing the the "correct" answer about America's "Most Important Right". rolleyes

lee n. field · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:22:58 PM »

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I scored 11,000 due to missing the the "correct" answer about America's "Most Important Right". rolleyes

Ditto. The only question that was a judgment call.

Ron · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:24:49 PM »

I got a perfect score but I knew what you were talking about when I got there.

tyme · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:29:41 PM »

Clearly a worthless question. Ask former Iraqis under Saddam's regime how much good their "right to vote" did them.

The Rabbi · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:31:32 PM »

Perfect score.
The right to vote is the most important right. Everything else stems from that.

280plus · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:32:23 PM »

I picked Alaska instead of Hawaii. sad

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:33:11 PM »

Okay, I have an GINORMOUS HUGANTIC problem with that last queston. Specifically, the way it's worded.

"What is the most important right granted to United States citizens?"

Granted? GRANTED!!!???

And to add insult to injury, the source given for these questions is none other than the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service!! What the holy flying crap is friggin' going on?!?!?!

Sorry, but this punched my button on a very primal level.

Brad

The Rabbi · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:35:43 PM »

Yes. Rights are granted. There is no such thing as a natural right. It is not provable they exist nor are there a list of such rights that everyone agrees on.

Monkeyleg · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:37:25 PM »

I'd hate to see the person who could flunk that test.

I went with voting for the last question, figuring that's what Gannet would want. So, I got a perfect score, but don't agree with the last question.

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:41:14 PM »

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Yes. Rights are granted.

I do ever so hope you are saying that tongue-in-cheek.

Brad

The Rabbi · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:42:08 PM »

Quote from: Brad Johnson on March 01, 2007, 12:41:14 PM

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Yes. Rights are granted.

I do ever so hope you are saying that tongue-in-cheek.

Brad

Nope. Dead serious.

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:44:04 PM »

Okay, I'll bite. By whom (or what)?

Brad

BakerMikeRomeo · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:45:46 PM »

I found a couple of the answers and the wordings of the questions in the last two "Rights" questions annoying, but I got a perfect score. Whee.

~GnSx

The Rabbi · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:47:48 PM »

Quote from: Brad Johnson on March 01, 2007, 12:44:04 PM

Okay, I'll bite. By whom (or what)?

Brad

Well, in our case its by the Constitution and, by extension, the Supreme Court.

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:52:32 PM »

From a certain document I found, circa 1776...

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights,

A right isn't something granted. A right is inalienable - bestowed upon each and every person as a result of their mere existance. The government - not the Consitution, not the congress, not the senate, or the President - doesn't grant a G** D*** thing. They recognize it, but don't grant it. The effing government may think it does, but that's just a pompous overextension of their already inflated sense of importance.

The Constitution, along with the Supreme Court, is supposed to protect our rights by limiting the government. Unfortunately that sense of purpose seems to have been stored away somewhere.

Brad

cosine · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:56:04 PM »

Gah, I missed one. angry

I said that Alaska was the 50th state admitted to the Union. Don't ask me why I did that. It happened before my time. Yeah, that's my excuse. angel

As for the "granted" rolleyes

rights question, I gave them the answer they were looking for, but I'll have to disagree. And if I hadn't read the thread before I took the test, I would have gotten that one wrong too. I would have chosen the RKBA as the "Most Important Right." You guys at THR have done a good job of indoctrinating me. Wink

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:57:19 PM »

Brad, I've already gone round and round with Rabbi on that one. He's a committed heretic from American political dogma on that point.

cosine · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:58:42 PM »

Quote from: fistful on March 01, 2007, 12:57:19 PM

Brad, I've already gone round and round with Rabbi on that one. He's a committed heretic from American political dogma on that point.

I started to do so too once recently, but didn't press the point.

Moondoggie · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2007, 02:04:29 PM »

I got a perfect score...but have to admit the previous posts made the last question a "gimmee".

Brad Johnson...I concur 1000%.

Those who think the Constitution "grants" rights have got it bass-ackwards. The problem is, waaay too many folks don't understand that concept. Or care.

Iain · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2007, 02:43:02 PM »

I got 11,000. When I got to that question I figured that Sindawe was suggesting that RKBA is the most important right (in his estimation) and so went with freedom of speech.

tyme · « **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2007, 02:43:56 PM »

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Yes. Rights are granted. There is no such thing as a natural right. It is not provable they exist nor are there a list of such rights that everyone agrees on.

Would you agree that in our case, rights are granted by our culture, and government is given specific and narrowly-defined powers that can infringe upon some of those rights, but cannot infringe upon others?

RevDisk · « **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2007, 03:07:26 PM »

Quote from: Sindawe on March 01, 2007, 12:08:36 PM

http://content.gannettonline.com/gns/citizenship/citizenship_trivia.html

Take the test, post your score and explain away your failure to score a perfect 12,000 points. grin

I scored 11,000 due to missing the the "correct" answer about America's "Most Important Right". rolleyes

Got 12k. That question is correct. The 2nd A is just our insurance policy. Your vote is what makes the 2nd A worth anything. It was intended to make us all free men and women, divorsed from tyrannts and oligarchies.

The 2nd A has got nothing to do with duck hunting, shooting paper or collecting evil black rifles. It has everything to do with protecting our country and our freedoms. By itself, the 2nd A is nothing.

That's the theory, anyways. Reality tends to be a bit different, I suppose.

The Rabbi · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2007, 03:24:42 PM »

Quote from: Brad Johnson on March 01, 2007, 12:52:32 PM

From a certain document I found, circa 1776...

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights,

A right isn't something granted. A right is inalienable - bestowed upon each and every person as a result of their mere existance. The government - not the Consitution, not the congress, not the senate, or the President - doesn't grant a G** D*** thing. They recognize it, but don't grant it. The effing government may think it does, but that's just a pompous overextension of their already inflated sense of importance.

The Constitution, along with the Supreme Court, is supposed to protect our rights by limiting the government. Unfortunately that sense of purpose seems to have been stored away somewhere.

Brad

Very pretty. Except the Declaration isn't a controlling document.
Maybe you'd care to explain the case of 18 year olds voting. Do you think 18 year olds were denied their Gd-given rights to vote by the fascist bloated state for 173 years but finally achieved their just deserts with passage of the 26th Amendment in 1971?
Or do you think they never had the right to vote until they were, yes, granted that right by Constitutional amendment?

Modifiedbrowning · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2007, 04:55:03 PM »

I chose Alaska for the 50th state for some reason.
I chose the right to bear arms out of stubborness.

crt360 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2007, 05:03:49 PM »

That was pretty easy. I liked the answer choice that had "carry guns and drink alcohol" as a right guaranteed by the first amendment. cheesy

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Author Topic: Can you pass this "citizen test?" (Read 4843 times)

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