COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[TommyGunn]

I just learned from a friend in Europe that COVID-19 has infected the mink population in Denmark, mutated to a new form that may not respond to the same anibodies being studied for a vaccine, and has already begun infecting people. This is NOT good news.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/covid-19-strain-in-denmark-mink-could-cause-new-pandemic-scientist/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-05/covid-mutation-in-danish-mink-triggers-new-restrictions

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/11/04/Denmark-to-cull-millions-of-mink-amid-COVID-19-fears/9571604544197/

The minks are to be destroyed.  

As for a new strain causing pandemic 2.0 ? ....... uh,  well,  there are already two strains of covid 19  I've heard about,  could be more? ? ?   As for pandemic 2.0,  no worries,  "Slow" Joe "lying dog-face ponysoldier" Biden will hit the ground running and he has a plan!    

[DittoHead]

I just learned from a friend in Europe that COVID-19 has infected the mink population in Denmark

It's not just Denmark either.
https://www.wortfm.org/thousands-of-mink-dead-after-covid-19-outbreak-at-wisconsin-mink-farm/

[Fly320s]

So, mink coats will be discounted in time for Christmas? 

[MillCreek]

^^^I cannot remember the last time I saw someone wearing furs in Seattle.

[Ben]

^^^I cannot remember the last time I saw someone wearing furs in Seattle.

Come to America. There's a Furs, Fireworks, and demilled ordnance store up the road from me. :)

[sumpnz]

From a friend: Causes Danes to lick their own junk, French unaffected.

[Hawkmoon]

Come to America. There's a Furs, Fireworks, and demilled ordnance store up the road from me. :)

It's not nice to gloat.

[MillCreek]

Dow futures are up 1600 points this morning (11/9/2020) on the news that initial data shows Pfizer's COVID vaccine is 90% effective.

[K Frame]

UNCLE JOE HAS SAVED US! HE CURED THE 'RONA!

Odd timing for the announcement... odd timing...

[Ben]

Distribution of the vaccine seems like it will require some logistics. I saw on the teevee it needs to be stored at sub zero temperatures. I'm hearing vastly different numbers, but they are all below zero. I heard up to -100C, which would require specialized freezers.

[dogmush]

Distribution of the vaccine seems like it will require some logistics. I saw on the teevee it needs to be stored at sub zero temperatures. I'm hearing vastly different numbers, but they are all below zero. I heard up to -100C, which would require specialized freezers.

From what I'm hearing distribution is going to be, at least initially, DOD's problem with USAMRIID leading the planning.  They have some stuff that can do it.  I'd expect production to be the bottleneck for the first couple months.

[TommyGunn]

Distribution of the vaccine seems like it will require some logistics. I saw on the teevee it needs to be stored at sub zero temperatures. I'm hearing vastly different numbers, but they are all below zero. I heard up to -100C, which would require specialized freezers.

I believe  those logistics have all been hashed out and set up,  or atleast readied for implementation,  as part of "operation  warp speed" (Scotty would be sooooo proud   ).

[French G.]

I am building folding aluminum pallet covers for air shipping and they are steady heading to a few pharma and biotechs. Some going international. The companies can do logistics without joe Biden.

[sumpnz]

Dry ice is -78C, so if you really need -100C you’d need something colder.  LN2 is -196C so given the fairly easy access of LN2 that might be what they’d use.  But that would make it rather expensive, and hard to distribute in significant numbers.  

If that’s the case it’ll be prioritized to health care workers and the ultra rich first and powerful politicians of course.  After that it’ll go to high risk people, and then filter down to the rest of us.  Which probably means a year or more before it’s “safe” to lift the restrictions on the economy.  But “because a lot of old people go to church” I’d bet restrictions on them stay for a long time to come.

[charby]

^^^I cannot remember the last time I saw someone wearing furs in Seattle.

I can't remember the last time I saw anyone wearing a new real fur coat. Occasionally I will see a ladies over 60 wearing a synthetic fur coat. I have a couple friends with fur coats from thrift/antique stores. You do see some folks wearing the synthetic or rabbit fur mad bomber hats in public on the really cold days, that is about it.

I would really like a raccoon stadium or car coat, but I'm worried about some schmuck pouring paint on it.

[Ben]

If that’s the case it’ll be prioritized to health care workers and the ultra rich first and powerful politicians of course.  

I would expect large urban areas as well, to include the ultra rich and the ultra poor. Based on both my economic status and geography, I expect I'll be one of the last people to get it. :)

The Boise metro actually has more large, advanced hospitals than I've seen in many even much more populous areas, so they would likely have the infrastructure to accept storage, and may already have some of the medical freezers, but it will do no good if there is no vaccine for them to store and distribute.

Apparently the vaccine also is only viable at refrigerator temperatures for 48 hours, so there is also going to be some logistical planning involved to ensure thawing/distribution are well-planned to avoid losing undoubtedly tight quantities of the vaccine.

[RoadKingLarry]

Well, at least we'll have a fairly long window of opportunity to see what if any hideous side effects emerge from the new vaccine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-NVs68X_S4

[dogmush]

Well, at least we'll have a fairly long window of opportunity to see what if any hideous side effects emerge from the new vaccine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-NVs68X_S4

If the choice is to agree with Andrew Cuomo or become a Reaver, Ima wear some skins.

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Wait'll you see the price tag ...

Woody

[RocketMan]

I wonder if the Biden administration will make the vaccine mandatory?

[MillCreek]

^^^I wonder if there will be a national mask mandate.

[sumpnz]

^^^I wonder if there will be a national mask mandate.

Can that be enforced?  Even if it shouldn’t be enforceable I know most people won’t risk the cost of running it to SCOTUS.

I know here in WA they’re going after stores and whatnot that allow customers without masks inside with fines.  Not sure that’s really legal, maybe, but either way the WA Supreme Court won’t go against Inslee over anything, let alone a mask mandate.

[Ben]

Can that be enforced?  Even if it shouldn’t be enforceable I know most people won’t risk the cost of running it to SCOTUS.

I know here in WA they’re going after stores and whatnot that allow customers without masks inside with fines.  Not sure that’s really legal, maybe, but either way the WA Supreme Court won’t go against Inslee over anything, let alone a mask mandate.

Biden has already announced he will pursue a national mask mandate. It sounds like he'll be ordering governors to do it, and if they refuse, he said he's going to county and city level officials to get them to require masks in their jurisdictions.

Which, if my own state is an average sample of something like that, it will be a mess. Our governor will not put out a statewide mask requirement, so various counties and cities are doing so while others (most) are not. It makes things incredibly confusing. You never know when or where someone will get upset with you over a mask. Most all stores here have "mask mandatory" signs, but depending on either the store or where it is, either everyone, some people, or nobody is wearing a mask.

[Andiron]

Biden has already announced he will pursue a national mask mandate. It sounds like he'll be ordering governors to do it, and if they refuse, he said he's going to county and city level officials to get them to require masks in their jurisdictions.

Which, if my own state is an average sample of something like that, it will be a mess. Our governor will not put out a statewide mask requirement, so various counties and cities are doing so while others (most) are not. It makes things incredibly confusing. You never know when or where someone will get upset with you over a mask. Most all stores here have "mask mandatory" signs, but depending on either the store or where it is, either everyone, some people, or nobody is wearing a mask.

It's about the same here.  Depending on the county,  you roll the dice of "no one gives a *expletive deleted*it" to getting screeched at by some officious loser that's never had more authority than his cash register and mop bucket.

I'm still not wearing a *expletive deleted*ing mask.

I actually had a bit of fun at the polls last week.  I politely declined to wear the face diaper,  and this nice lady followed me around with a basket of them insisting I take one.  She lost, I voted.

[Boomhauer]

I wonder if there will be a national mask mandate.

I’ve got your mandatory national mask mandate right here, Joe.