Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus

[Jamisjockey]

Why are they flying empty planes? 

I had heard union rules had some part in that, but it didn't make sense.

I think it's a game of chicken for bailout money.  They kept flying empty planes so they could point to losing revenue when it came time to get a bailout. Certainly, they were hoping for federal limitations or grounding like 9/11 so they could blame the government directly.

[Ron]

This is my counties site for China Virus information.

They have a map breaking infections down by each town.

We're a "collar" county. Immediately to the east/right is Cook County dominated and ruled by Mordor on Michigan ie Chicago.

https://www.dupagehealth.org/590/Coronavirus-Disease-2019-COVID-19-Inform

[K Frame]

And, I was wrong.

I've just been ejected from my office for two weeks because of a possible exposure to Corona almost... two weeks ago.

So, if I don't show any symptoms by the beginning of next week, I can go back because that was 2 weeks... right?

Nope. Two weeks from today.

Jesus monkey *expletive deleted*ing a football Christ...

[charby]

And, I was wrong.

I've just been ejected from my office for two weeks because of a possible exposure to Corona almost... two weeks ago.

So, if I don't show any symptoms by the beginning of next week, I can go back because that was 2 weeks... right?

Nope. Two weeks from today.

Jesus monkey *expletive deleted*ing a football Christ...

I got booted from my state capital complex office 17 days ago (I only go there maybe 3x a month) and not allowed to go on road either, work is getting really boring.

[K Frame]

Just got some really good news from my company. My pay is going to be fully covered during this time. Details will have to be worked out as the situation catches up with the new laws, etc., but at least I'm not going to have to factor in 1 or 2 short paychecks.

[charby]

Just got some really good news from my company. My pay is going to be fully covered during this time. Details will have to be worked out as the situation catches up with the new laws, etc., but at least I'm not going to have to factor in 1 or 2 short paychecks.

Great news!

[Fly320s]

Why are they flying empty planes? 

I had heard union rules had some part in that, but it didn't make sense.

Nothing to do with unions, afaik.  We still have some customers, so we still fly some flights.  My company has reduced the flying by 75%, but unless there is a government mandated shutdown, we will keep flying some flights.

As part of this bailout, we are obligated to operate essential routes, although I don't know if that is defined any where. 

[bedlamite]

Nothing to do with unions, afaik.  We still have some customers, so we still fly some flights.  My company has reduced the flying by 75%, but unless there is a government mandated shutdown, we will keep flying some flights.

As part of this bailout, we are obligated to operate essential routes, although I don't know if that is defined any where. 

Also, cancelling flights means refunds of already purchased tickets. If they fly and passengers don't show up, they keep the fare.

[Fly320s]

There is a huge cluster in NH around the community that a lot of them live in.

Location, location, location.  

I think it has less to do with us airline people and more to do with the location.  We are about 1 hour to Boston and there is a high percentage of commuters around here.

[Ron]

Brother of a friend tested positive, he's in California.

[HeroHog]

I have an Internet friend from my profession and a few groups we frequent that has been chatting with me offline who has been tested positive for the Wu Flu. Apparently he's more of a "carrier" than a "victim" at this point. he's late 50's, I believe, but is weathering it well, thank God.

[lupinus]

Nother positive at work. Just received notice not to show up tomorrow as ops are suspended for 24hrs to do disinfecting

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[grampster]

Here is a scenario for the hive mind's advice.  My grandson and his sig other and their two kids live with us at the moment.  She is a day care teacher.  Wretched Gretchen our Michigan governor declared day care's as essential services.  SO was told that she had a choice because 2/3 of the kids are not coming to day care.  Parents are laid off keeping kids home.

The offer is this:  Work 2 days for 2 days pay. OR Take a voluntary lay off, but you can't claim unemployment as you choose not to work.  SO took unpaid leave because she doesn't want to endanger our greatgranddaughters, our grand son and us for 2 days pay...$80.00 minus taxws.  I suspect the millionaire owner is scamming so her unemployment insurance premiums would not go up if she actually laid off 2/3 of the employees.  Her business also has less than 500 employees so she might be scamming to get some government money because she is "still open" and has employees.  Anybody got any thoughts on this?

[brimic]

Then those of us that work are reminded daily ‘if you are sick, stay home!.’ Then there are posters on every.single.wall. Stating “If you are sick, stay home!”
Then the company sends out an email every single day stating “If you are sick, stay home!”
Everyone was notified 3 weeks ago that lower tier workers (yeah I got screwed on this one) got an added week of vacation to use if they get sick, so that there is no excuse to come in to work if sick.

And yet, some >insert long string of profanities< comes into work on an off shift and sits at her desk for hours, sick with a fever too sick to work, getting at least one other person sick. We are busier than ever, I’m working 70+hrs a week along with a lot of others, and we just lost an entire shift for a week- they were all ordered to stay home and be re-evaluated next week. What’s more, this person lives in the ghetto hot zone if our state abd was using public transit.

I am *expletive deleted*ing livid.

ETA: the other person that got sick is in his 60s, not in the best physical condition, is probably out best worker, and has his desk right next to mine.

[lupinus]

Then those of us that work are reminded daily ‘if you are sick, stay home!.’ Then there are posters on every.single.wall. Stating “If you are sick, stay home!”
Then the company sends out an email every single day stating “If you are sick, stay home!”
Everyone was notified 3 weeks ago that lower tier workers (yeah I got screwed on this one) got an added week of vacation to use if they get sick, so that there is no excuse to come in to work if sick.

And yet, some >insert long string of profanities< comes into work on an off shift and sits at her desk for hours, sick with a fever too sick to work, getting at least one other person sick. We are busier than ever, I’m working 70+hrs a week along with a lot of others, and we just lost an entire shift for a week- they were all ordered to stay home and be re-evaluated next week. What’s more, this person lives in the ghetto hot zone if our state abd was using public transit.

I am *expletive deleted*ing livid.

ETA: the other person that got sick is in his 60s, not in the best physical condition, is probably out best worker, and has his desk right next to mine.

Ayep, gotta love plague rats. Had one the other day come in and wasn't noticed for a few hours before being sent packing. Despite it being shouted from the roof tops that if you feel so much as a sniffle stay the hell home. Currently a confirmed fever gets you up to three days, paid, without having to use PTO. Confirmed 'rona for you or household is a full two weeks. I work distribution for one of the large pharmacy chains, our distribution center services over 1000 stores- the entirety of the southeast minus Florida, a bit west past the Mississippi, and most of the mid-Atlantic and into southern PA. We're already working most of the building at round about 60 hours a week. If it rolls through building it'd not be a good thing. So they've gone very err on the side of keeping the plague rats home in the temporary policy changes.

Fun side note I work in the receiving office scheduling inbound freight, and occasionally the desk dealing with truck drivers. The supply chain on most product types isn't bad but is starting to feel the pain. And I'd say a good 50% of the truck drivers are now coming in gloved up and masked.

[K Frame]

And I'm back at the office.

After further consultation, the leadership decided that the possible exposure vector did not constitute enough of a concern to debar us from work for 2 weeks.

The only thing that is consistent right now is change, and how fast change is happening. It's like repeated whiplash.

[Ron]

My cousin (55) and her adult daughter are home quarantined with pneumonia (outside of Detroit).

No covid 19 test administered.

If my cousin gets worse they will admit her and test her.

Seems like an odd protocol during a pandemic.

[MechAg94]

My cousin (55) and her adult daughter are home quarantined with pneumonia (outside of Detroit).

No covid 19 test administered.

If my cousin gets worse they will admit her and test her.

Seems like an odd protocol during a pandemic.

I would have thought pneumonia would get you admitted.  That is serious.

[bedlamite]

I would have thought pneumonia would get you admitted.  That is serious.

Maybe. Depends on blood oxygen levels, and whether it responds to antibiotics. If you are getting enough oxygen and the z-pac works, there is no reason to be in the hospital.

[charby]

Maybe. Depends on blood oxygen levels, and whether it responds to antibiotics. If you are getting enough oxygen and the z-pac works, there is no reason to be in the hospital.

Beat me to it.

[HankB]

As part of this bailout, we are obligated to operate essential routes, although I don't know if that is defined any where. 

Probably between Washington, D.C. and the home districts of various  more senior congresscritters. (The ones who don't have a government plane at their disposal.)

[BlueStarLizzard]

Maybe. Depends on blood oxygen levels, and whether it responds to antibiotics. If you are getting enough oxygen and the z-pac works, there is no reason to be in the hospital.

Plus, if your sick and you don't have it, the hospital is the LAST place you want to be. Even with precautions in place, you know it's still going to get transferred.

If you aren't going to die in the next ten minutes, STAY HOME.

[Ron]

Plus, if your sick and you don't have it, the hospital is the LAST place you want to be. Even with precautions in place, you know it's still going to get transferred.

If you aren't going to die in the next ten minutes, STAY HOME.

I'm with you on the stay home.

What I find peculiar is not testing her or her daughter that lives with her when they both have pneumonia.

[charby]

Friend of mine sent me a message, she is selling her whisky/wine/cocktail bar because our bars are shut down until Apr 30 and she can't afford to reopen after setting idle for 45 days. Plus we don't know if this date will be extended, already has been once.

I feel a lot of small businesses are going to be permanently closed due to the virus.

[makattak]

Friend of mine sent me a message, she is selling her whisky/wine/cocktail bar because our bars are shut down until Apr 30 and she can't afford to reopen after setting idle for 45 days. Plus we don't know if this date will be extended, already has been once.

I feel a lot of small businesses are going to be permanently closed due to the virus.

The smoothie place beside my office went out of business even before the full shutdown.

We're doing what we can to support local business, but this is a killer for a lot of them.

My wife's business is basically zero, now. Thankfully, as she has a home studio, it really doesn't cost her anything to shut down. She just doesn't make money while shut down, unlike other businesses who have costs that must be covered whether they are running or not.