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Turn in your gas stoves
« on: May 10, 2020, 10:49:55 AM »
Come and take it. And I don't even have a gas stove  :P
Are gas furnaces next?

Twitchy has this on VIP but here's a straight twitter link

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Matt Bruenig
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after the covid, we should hire
millions of people to go door to door, tearing out people's gas powered stoves and replacing them with electric, whether they want to or not
https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1259245045074575363

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Hot take: Let’s hire millions to go door to door tearing out people’s gas stoves after the COVID-19 crisis passes
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/05/09/hot-take-lets-hire-millions-to-go-door-to-door-tearing-out-peoples-gas-stoves-after-the-covid-19-crisis-passes/

Had to look this guy up
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Matthew Bruenig[1] (born November 22, 1988)[2][3] is an American lawyer, blogger, policy analyst, commentator,[4] and founder of the left-wing think tank People's Policy Project. He was a blogger for the American think tank Demos covering politics and public policy[5] and has written on issues including income distribution, taxation, welfare, elections, and Scandinavian economic models.[6][7][8] He is married to Elizabeth Bruenig,[9] formerly an opinion writer and editor at The Washington Post[10] who is now at The New York Times.[11]
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2020, 10:55:01 AM »
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after the covid, we should hire
millions of people to go door to door, tearing out people's gas powered stoves and replacing them with electric, whether they want to or not

Do you want to get shot? 'cause that's a damn good way to get yourself shot.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2020, 10:58:19 AM »
Well that's dumb.

For heating applications, it's much better to burn the fuel at point of use, then use it to make electricity first and incur Carnot cycle losses and transmission losses.  Of course, that assumes that we are still burning things for electric power, and haven't done the sane, rational thing and use atomic energy... Something Matt probably also disagrees with.

Also, who is Matt Bruenig and why should I concern myself with what he thinks?  Sounds like a community organizer sort, lots of talk, no action.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2020, 11:08:51 AM »
"whether they want to or not"

That tells it all with respect to left wing attitudes:  "Comes the revolution, you will do as you're damned well told."

Some good stuff in the responses.  Hadn't heard this one before:

"That lock on my door is for your protection, not mine.

— Mark C, austere BBQ scholar(@UntraceableMC) May 9, 2020"

Almost as good as

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I came up with that one a couple of years ago and posted it on an inside wall of my apartment.  Wouldn't want to look bloodthirsty, after all.  Not copyrighted.

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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2020, 01:08:23 PM »
My wife would beat him to death before she gives up that duel fuel range.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2020, 01:41:53 PM »
Looking at his twitter posts, he looks like an internet troll trying to stir things up.  He might be a leftist, but I couldn't be sure.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2020, 03:27:06 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on May 10, 2020, 01:41:53 PM
Looking at his twitter posts, he looks like an internet troll trying to stir things up.  He might be a leftist, but I couldn't be sure.

Did you see the wiki info on him, he's flaming left
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2020, 06:54:25 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on May 10, 2020, 10:49:55 AM

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That’s a lot of words to say “useless *expletive deleted*ing mommy parts”
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2020, 08:49:24 PM »
Everyone gets a free electrical panel upgrade? Doubt everyone has the power capacity for electric stove, electric dryer, electric furnace, electric water heater, and AC.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2020, 08:56:21 PM »
Living out in the sticks, I hope I get a free whole house gen with the deal.
The reason I have a propane oven and range and boiler and water heater is because they work when the electrical power is out and it’s -15 degrees with 3’ snow drifts in the road.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2020, 09:21:51 PM »
I always figured electric stoves were pretty wasteful, what with warmup times and cooldown times just dissipating energy uselessly, let alone the possibility of kicking  your billing into high demand rates.

(I'd love to see more atomic energy generated, too.  What are we, at 20% now?)
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2020, 09:46:48 PM »
Quote from: charby on May 10, 2020, 08:49:24 PM
Everyone gets a free electrical panel upgrade? Doubt everyone has the power capacity for electric stove, electric dryer, electric furnace, electric water heater, and AC.

When the right people are in charge you wont need heat or AC.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2020, 09:53:30 PM »
Quote from: charby on May 10, 2020, 08:49:24 PM
Everyone gets a free electrical panel upgrade? Doubt everyone has the power capacity for electric stove, electric dryer, electric furnace, electric water heater, and AC.

I seriously doubt the California power companies have the capacity to handle everyone switching to all electric. Heck, the power companies have been paying people NOT to use electricity for years. Maybe this clown thinks everyone has a solar roof already?
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2020, 02:45:58 AM »
Quote from: Kingcreek on May 10, 2020, 08:56:21 PM
Living out in the sticks, I hope I get a free whole house gen with the deal.
The reason I have a propane oven and range and boiler and water heater is because they work when the electrical power is out and it’s -15 degrees with 3’ snow drifts in the road.

 This. I have cooked a lot of food with no electrical power.
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2020, 07:16:01 AM »
I imagine he wants my pellet stove, too.

I actually had to burn my pellet stove yesterday. It was damned cold in the house.
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2020, 08:54:06 AM »
Quote from: tokugawa on May 11, 2020, 02:45:58 AM
This. I have cooked a lot of food with no electrical power.
That.  Though the last time it was relevant was Ike several years ago.  Power was out and I still had hot water and could fire up the burners on the stove.  This with natural gas though.  Using electricity for that would be more expensive. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2020, 09:23:38 AM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin on May 11, 2020, 07:16:01 AM
I imagine he wants my pellet stove, too.

I actually had to burn my pellet stove yesterday. It was damned cold in the house.

I wonder what he would think  about my wood stove? Speaking of which I may build a fire here today.
*expletive deleted*ing global warming!
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2020, 09:56:48 AM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin on May 11, 2020, 07:16:01 AM
I imagine he wants my pellet stove, too.

I actually had to burn my pellet stove yesterday. It was damned cold in the house.

Tire pellets
I can already hear "How Dare You!" just thinking about it.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2020, 11:15:01 AM »
Gas appliances are already banned in some places in the USA.   ;/
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2020, 12:38:13 PM »
I will not turn in my gas stove.  My wife would kill me if I did.
I will certainly turn on my gas stove to cook all kinds of tasty animals.
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2020, 02:45:37 PM »
And I've had to fire up my pellet stove again...

Suck it, Bruenig.
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2020, 03:59:29 PM »
Yeah, 11th of May in Oklahoma and I had to fire up the woodstove.
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2020, 05:30:23 PM »
Just put some hedge logs in the wood stove. It is chilly here for may
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2020, 07:29:12 AM »
And guess that's burning in my living room right now?

If you said the TV, no, but good guess.

Hopefully this is the last I have to burn the stove until late this year.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2020, 10:32:21 AM »
This article popped up in my news feed this morning, and it is relevant to the discussion. It makes me think about having the vent fan run every single time we are using the stove.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/5/7/21247602/gas-stove-cooking-indoor-air-pollution-health-risks
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