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zahc

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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #125 on: November 19, 2023, 10:51:31 AM »
Aren't they transitioning to propane? They already use it and I thought that was the future of refrigerants.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #126 on: November 19, 2023, 11:12:43 AM »
My brand new heat pump is R410A. That sucks.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #127 on: November 19, 2023, 11:17:53 AM »
The govt: We are going to force you to use a heat pump
Also the govt: We are banning the refrigerant those heat pumps use.

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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #128 on: November 19, 2023, 04:17:18 PM »
Quote from: zahc on November 19, 2023, 10:51:31 AM
Aren't they transitioning to propane? They already use it and I thought that was the future of refrigerants.

Can't patent propane  :P

Small manufactured appliances can use straight up hydrocarbons.  Isobutane and cyclopentane being the most common.  As I understand it, the residential market is likely to end up with hydrofluoroolefins, which is a fancy way to say "Flouranated alkenes".
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #129 on: November 19, 2023, 05:29:35 PM »
Quote from: Nick1911 on November 19, 2023, 04:17:18 PM
Can't patent propane  :P

Small manufactured appliances can use straight up hydrocarbons.  Isobutane and cyclopentane being the most common.  As I understand it, the residential market is likely to end up with hydrofluoroolefins, which is a fancy way to say "Flouranated alkenes".

Too bad ClF3 isn't a good refrigerant.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #130 on: November 19, 2023, 07:18:19 PM »
I'm getting too old and my customers too few for me to buy any equipment to do the new stuff. I've already turned down a few refrigerators because they could not get factory service down here.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #131 on: November 20, 2023, 06:56:09 AM »
Bring back methyl chloride and sulfur dioxide!

Make refrigerators great again!
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #132 on: November 20, 2023, 07:27:10 AM »
Quote from: K Frame on November 20, 2023, 06:56:09 AM
Bring back methyl chloride and sulfur dioxide!

Make refrigerators great again!

Ammonia being pumped by a coal fired boiler and steam engine. Backyard scale of course. 
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #133 on: November 20, 2023, 07:46:42 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on November 19, 2023, 11:17:53 AM
The govt: We are going to force you to use a heat pump
Also the govt: We are banning the refrigerant those heat pumps use.



Gotta keep Dupont in the green with their miracle new R-$$$ once everybody and their brother start producing the refrigerant du jour
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #134 on: November 24, 2023, 12:16:25 PM »
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Oh, look at that: a gas stove.

Rules For Thee, Not For Me: Twitter Notices Hypocritical Kamala Harris Has A Gas Stove
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