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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #125 on: November 19, 2023, 10:51:31 AM »
Aren't they transitioning to propane? They already use it and I thought that was the future of refrigerants.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #126 on: November 19, 2023, 11:12:43 AM »
My brand new heat pump is R410A. That sucks.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #127 on: November 19, 2023, 11:17:53 AM »
The govt: We are going to force you to use a heat pump
Also the govt: We are banning the refrigerant those heat pumps use.

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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #128 on: November 19, 2023, 04:17:18 PM »
Quote from: zahc on November 19, 2023, 10:51:31 AM
Aren't they transitioning to propane? They already use it and I thought that was the future of refrigerants.

Can't patent propane  :P

Small manufactured appliances can use straight up hydrocarbons.  Isobutane and cyclopentane being the most common.  As I understand it, the residential market is likely to end up with hydrofluoroolefins, which is a fancy way to say "Flouranated alkenes".
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #129 on: November 19, 2023, 05:29:35 PM »
Quote from: Nick1911 on November 19, 2023, 04:17:18 PM
Can't patent propane  :P

Small manufactured appliances can use straight up hydrocarbons.  Isobutane and cyclopentane being the most common.  As I understand it, the residential market is likely to end up with hydrofluoroolefins, which is a fancy way to say "Flouranated alkenes".

Too bad ClF3 isn't a good refrigerant.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #130 on: November 19, 2023, 07:18:19 PM »
I'm getting too old and my customers too few for me to buy any equipment to do the new stuff. I've already turned down a few refrigerators because they could not get factory service down here.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #131 on: November 20, 2023, 06:56:09 AM »
Bring back methyl chloride and sulfur dioxide!

Make refrigerators great again!
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #132 on: November 20, 2023, 07:27:10 AM »
Quote from: K Frame on November 20, 2023, 06:56:09 AM
Bring back methyl chloride and sulfur dioxide!

Make refrigerators great again!

Ammonia being pumped by a coal fired boiler and steam engine. Backyard scale of course. 
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #133 on: November 20, 2023, 07:46:42 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on November 19, 2023, 11:17:53 AM
The govt: We are going to force you to use a heat pump
Also the govt: We are banning the refrigerant those heat pumps use.



Gotta keep Dupont in the green with their miracle new R-$$$ once everybody and their brother start producing the refrigerant du jour
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #134 on: November 24, 2023, 12:16:25 PM »
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    From our family to yours, happy Thanksgiving. pic.twitter.com/Nhifx0sHi5
    — Vice President Kamala Harris (@VP) November 23, 2023

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Oh, look at that: a gas stove.

Rules For Thee, Not For Me: Twitter Notices Hypocritical Kamala Harris Has A Gas Stove
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2023/11/24/kamala-harris-gas-stove-n2390116
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« Reply #135 on: December 27, 2023, 12:02:57 PM »
And she does it again.
At this point I'm starting to think it's intentional

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Kamala Harris has been mocked online for the second time in two months after she posted a Christmas photo of herself cooking in a kitchen, featuring a gas stove.

Just last month Harris was roundly mocked when she posted a similar photo with her husband Doug Emhoff in their kitchen. Now, once again, the couple appeared standing next to a gas stove, this time for Christmas.

Kamala Harris is roasted for posting picture next to a gas stove AGAIN on Christmas Day - after Biden administration considered banning them over health concerns
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12901907/Kamala-Harris-roasted-posting-picture-gas-stove-Christmas-Day-Biden-administration-considered-banning-health-concerns.html
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #136 on: December 27, 2023, 11:03:52 PM »
She is one of the "elites".  She gets a pass because of that.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #137 on: December 28, 2023, 01:38:59 AM »
Quote from: JTHunter on December 27, 2023, 11:03:52 PM
She is one of the "elites".  She gets a pass because of that.

The only ones professional enough to use gas appliances without killing Mother Earth.
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Re: Turn in your gas stoves
« Reply #138 on: January 03, 2024, 08:53:26 AM »
This is interesting...

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals just told the city of Berkley FU, your new gas connections ban is illegal, and no, the entire court doesn't need to hear it because it's illegal.

Of course, Berkley and the Biden administration, which was heavily in favor of Berkley's move and filed an amicus brief with the court, are screaming bloody murder. Or would it be green murder?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/appeals-court-delivers-fatal-blow-california-city-pushing-natural-gas-ban
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