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Re: Dune
« Reply #150 on: November 18, 2021, 11:05:29 AM »
Was in Sam's and noticed they had Dune books where the cover art showed the characters as they are portrayed in the 2021 movie. It was very similar to some of the movie posters I have seen with one exception, no Liet-Kynes. I wonder if that is because the Liet-Kynes of the 2021 movie doesn't resemble  how Liet-Kynes is described in the book and they thought that would confuse some readers. How long before the SJWs notice and start raising a stink?
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« Reply #151 on: November 18, 2021, 12:17:09 PM »
I've long disliked this tendency to clothe a paperback in imagery from a motion picture version of the story.  To the best of my knowledge it really started with LotR in the early 2000's, I don't recall it with any other books before that.

But now all the Darryl Sweet illustrations from the WoT books are going to be replaced with what I consider to be an unsatisfactory imagining of Jordan's Wheel of Time by Amazon, especially since Amazon is hell-bent on convincing the world that WoT is "the next Game of Thrones!11!eleventy1one!"
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Re: Dune
« Reply #152 on: November 18, 2021, 12:20:06 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on November 18, 2021, 12:17:09 PM
I've long disliked this tendency to clothe a paperback in imagery from a motion picture version of the story.  To the best of my knowledge it really started with LotR in the early 2000's, I don't recall it with any other books before that.


I seem to recall it being done with the 84 Dune as well.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #153 on: November 18, 2021, 12:56:27 PM »
"I've long disliked this tendency to clothe a paperback in imagery from a motion picture version of the story.  To the best of my knowledge it really started with LotR in the early 2000's, I don't recall it with any other books before that."

Hell, I remember it happening regularly back well before that.

In 1993 The Stand (complete paperback edition) was printed with Gary Sinise and Molly Ringwald on the cover. They were in the TV miniseries adaptation.

Before that in the mid 1970s Carrie was reprinted with Sissy Spacek on the cover.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #154 on: November 19, 2021, 08:12:24 AM »
My copy of True Grit has John Wayne on the cover.
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« Reply #155 on: December 01, 2021, 06:46:23 PM »
I got to see this version of Dune this last weekend and found it to be absolutely fantastic. I can’t wait until the 2nd part comes out.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #156 on: December 01, 2021, 06:57:33 PM »
I have bought plenty of Scifi books that had covers that bore no relation to the book.  It doesn't bother me a great deal, but it does affect how you imagine the characters and landscape when you read the story for the first time. 

I was lucky with Lord of the Rings.  The book I read was a commemorative copy for what would be Tolkien's 100th birthday.  It has nice artwork distributed through the book (had all three books in one).  As it happens, that same artist consulted on the movie so the movie creatures looked very similar. 
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« Reply #157 on: December 02, 2021, 09:00:47 AM »
I about fell off my chair, I wasn't expecting that*.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Dune Thufir/Twiki Calculation scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf1cTSa9kRQ


*Of course recognizing the sound effect helps  :rofl:
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Re: Dune
« Reply #158 on: December 02, 2021, 09:04:19 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on December 02, 2021, 09:00:47 AM
I about fell off my chair, I wasn't expecting that*.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Dune Thufir/Twiki Calculation scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf1cTSa9kRQ


*Of course recognizing the source of the sound effect helps  :rofl:

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That's definitely showing your (and my) age!
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« Reply #159 on: December 02, 2021, 09:08:59 AM »
Twiki wouldn't be allowed to exist in the Dune universe
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Re: Dune
« Reply #160 on: December 02, 2021, 09:46:52 AM »
There is/was a math competition in grade school that required all work to be done in your head.  No calculators, no notes.  Write the answer only.  There a number of techniques for doing more complicated math in your head.  I imagine remembering all the facts and figures for instant recall takes a lot more mental discipline.  I wasn't sure in Dune if they had no computers or just no AI/robots.  With no computers, there would likely be a lot of people around doing that sort of mental work with the mentats being at a level above everyone else.
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« Reply #161 on: December 02, 2021, 09:50:52 AM »
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There is/was a math competition in grade school that required all work to be done in your head.  No calculators, no notes.  Write the answer only.  There a number of techniques for doing more complicated math in your head.  I imagine remembering all the facts and figures for instant recall takes a lot more mental discipline.  I wasn't sure in Dune if they had no computers or just no AI/robots.  With no computers, there would likely be a lot of people around doing that sort of mental work with the mentats being at a level above everyone else.

Kids nowadays look at you like you have some sort of bizarre superpower if you can figure out taxes and/or tips in your head in front of them.

biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi

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Re: Dune
« Reply #162 on: December 02, 2021, 10:21:41 AM »
Darn it, miss the opportunely for a joke

That should have been

biddi-biddi-biddi, biddi-biddi-biddi, biddi-biddi-biddi, biddi-biddi-biddi
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Re: Dune
« Reply #163 on: December 02, 2021, 10:26:02 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on December 02, 2021, 10:21:41 AM
Darn it, miss the opportunely for a joke

That should have been

biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi
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Your math is off...

Its tree fiddy!
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Re: Dune
« Reply #164 on: December 02, 2021, 02:09:14 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on December 02, 2021, 09:50:52 AM
Kids nowadays look at you like you have some sort of bizarre superpower if you can figure out taxes and/or tips in your head in front of them.

biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi biddi-biddi-biddi

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There have always been people who looked at math that way.  At least they were there when I was still in school. 

I had an engineering physics class at junior college with a retired guy who taught it.  He could look at a huge equation on the board and do it all in his head.  He would round up a lot and do it piece by piece, but he would always be within 10% of the answer.  He figured that was close enough for discussion purposes. 
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« Reply #165 on: December 17, 2021, 09:16:48 AM »
Reading Villeneuve may be doing Rendezvous With Rama
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« Reply #166 on: December 17, 2021, 09:19:50 AM »
That could be fun!
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Re: Dune
« Reply #167 on: December 17, 2021, 09:21:01 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on December 17, 2021, 09:16:48 AM
Reading Villeneuve may be doing Rendezvous With Rama

Just saw that moments ago.  Interesting, for sure.
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« Reply #168 on: March 28, 2022, 09:23:47 AM »
Finally saw it this weekend. Damn! Really, really looking forward to the next installment.

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« Reply #169 on: March 28, 2022, 09:25:29 AM »
Unless you saw it in a theater, you didn't really see it.

Dune is one of those movies that MUST be seen on the big screen.


On a positive note, it won 6 Oscars yesterday. All technical category, but still.
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« Reply #170 on: March 28, 2022, 09:26:39 AM »
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Finally saw it this weekend. Damn! Really, really looking forward to the next installment.

Brad

Yeah, after I watched it I was thinking that I should have held off watching it until part 2 was ready to drop. I hate the waiting.  :laugh:
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« Reply #171 on: March 28, 2022, 09:32:57 AM »
Quote from: K Frame on March 28, 2022, 09:25:29 AM
Unless you saw it in a theater, you didn't really see it.

Dune is one of those movies that MUST be seen on the big screen.

On a positive note, it won 6 Oscars yesterday. All technical category, but still.

65" screen at 8' viewing distance has the same effective field of view as sitting in most movie theaters. Sound setup is Dolby DTS:X capable and driving two fifteen inch subs. Trust me, not only did I get the full movie experience, I probably had the neighbors experiencing it, too.

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« Reply #172 on: March 28, 2022, 09:34:44 AM »
If your feet weren't sticking to the floor because the jackwad in back of you spilled his big chug Pepsi, then you did NOT see it.

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« Reply #173 on: March 28, 2022, 09:35:56 AM »
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If your feet weren't sticking to the floor because the jackwad in back of you spilled his big chug Pepsi, then you did NOT see it.

Or if you not getting bedbugs from the seat.....     [barf]
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« Reply #174 on: March 28, 2022, 09:39:15 AM »
Quote from: K Frame on March 28, 2022, 09:34:44 AM
If your feet weren't sticking to the floor because the jackwad in back of you spilled his big chug Pepsi, then you did NOT see it.

Well, yeah, there's that.

I was in my old ratty house shirt & day-old gym shorts and may have dropped some sammich crumbs on the floor. Does that count?

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