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Re: Dune
« Reply #200 on: August 19, 2022, 02:27:32 PM »
"The movie removed Piter de Vries personality..."

That's one of my biggest gripes about this movie...

Compared to the book or the 1980s movie, this version almost completely obliterates the rational for WHY Spice Melange was so important to the empire.

The abilities of the mentats? Completely erased.

WHY the mentats existed? Completely erased.

The explanation of how Spice permitted expansion of the empire? Watered down to about a quarter section left-handed coughed reference that really didn't make contextual sense.

It was all -- Well, Spice is important, because it's a psychoactive drug. Hell, it's almost as if Arrakis is the far future Colombia, Spice is nothing more than cocaine, and the Harkonnens? Pablo Escobar's boys of the future.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #201 on: August 19, 2022, 07:34:45 PM »
Part 1 could have bee 4-5 hours and it would have been better. I'm thinking they should have made this at least a trilogy.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #202 on: August 19, 2022, 08:04:16 PM »
The Director plans a trilogy, with Dune Messiah being the third movie.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #203 on: May 03, 2023, 12:43:35 PM »
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Re: Dune
« Reply #204 on: May 03, 2023, 12:53:05 PM »
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Re: Dune
« Reply #205 on: May 03, 2023, 01:27:35 PM »
Hurry up, November!
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Re: Dune
« Reply #206 on: May 03, 2023, 01:43:42 PM »
Nice trailer!

I was glad to see the gladiatorial combat scene... that is my favorite one in the book.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #207 on: May 03, 2023, 01:48:18 PM »
Oops, wrong thread
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Re: Dune
« Reply #208 on: May 03, 2023, 01:51:48 PM »
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Oops, wrong thread
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I was just coming back to ask what is the price of a 2x4 on Dune?
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Re: Dune
« Reply #209 on: May 03, 2023, 02:04:29 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on May 03, 2023, 01:51:48 PM
I was just coming back to ask what is the price of a 2x4 on Dune?

I am thinking that with the lack of suitable forestation on the planet all lumber would have to be imported from off planet. To have wood would be a symbol of wealth, in fact the ultra-wealthy. With that is mind and knowing the value of melange you could probably get enough lumber for a house for half a gram or so of spice. Maybe ;)

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Re: Dune
« Reply #210 on: May 03, 2023, 02:50:33 PM »
I recall in the book the Fremen were trying to grow green plants near the poles and were bribing the spacing guild to keep quiet about it and keep satellites out of the sky.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #211 on: July 02, 2023, 03:44:45 PM »
New longer trailer

DUNE PART TWO Official Trailer 2 | 4K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUiz5dRdMdk
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Re: Dune
« Reply #212 on: July 02, 2023, 05:13:40 PM »
Looking good so far. 

November 3rd.  Still a ways off.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #213 on: July 07, 2023, 03:57:09 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on July 02, 2023, 03:44:45 PM
New longer trailer

DUNE PART TWO Official Trailer 2 | 4K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUiz5dRdMdk

OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Dune
« Reply #214 on: July 07, 2023, 04:45:23 PM »
Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm: "People have no interest in classic sci fi or super hero movies."

Dennis Villeneuve with Dune and Zack Snyder with Rebel Moon:  "I'd like to thank the Academy..."
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Re: Dune
« Reply #215 on: July 07, 2023, 04:49:23 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on July 07, 2023, 04:45:23 PM
Disney/Marvel/Lucasfilm: "People have no interest in classic sci fi or super hero movies."

Dennis Villeneuve with Dune and Zack Snyder with Rebel Moon:  "I'd like to thank the Academy..."

Only if they meet the new diversity requirements.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #216 on: July 07, 2023, 05:29:41 PM »
"super hero movies."

INTRODUCING THE 77TH INSTALLMENT OF THE MARVEL/DC/NAMCO/WHO GIVES A *expletive deleted*ck UNIVERSE THIS MONTH!

AND WE PROMISE THAT THIS ONE IS ONLY HALF AS CRAPPY AS THE PREVIOUS 34!



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Re: Dune
« Reply #217 on: July 07, 2023, 05:30:35 PM »
Quote from: K Frame on July 07, 2023, 05:29:41 PM
"super hero movies."

INTRODUCING THE 77TH INSTALLMENT OF THE MARVEL/DC/NAMCO/WHO GIVES A *expletive deleted*ck UNIVERSE THIS MONTH!

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Re: Dune
« Reply #218 on: August 18, 2023, 10:04:23 AM »
Goddamn it!

Article on CNBC saying that the writer's and actor's strike could delay the release of Dune II later this year.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/17/will-dune-part-two-move-to-2024-hollywood-strikes.html
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Re: Dune
« Reply #219 on: August 18, 2023, 02:34:18 PM »
There are 2 "complaints" I had about the '84 version.  They tried to cover too much time in one film and that leads to the second problem.  They should have used a younger actor than McLachlan at the beginning of the movie.  He should not have appeared until after they had been ousted by the Harkonens and been fighting in the desert for a couple of years.
Other than that, the '84 battles were better, more visible and not as dark and hard to see as this newer version.
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« Reply #220 on: August 18, 2023, 03:11:53 PM »
I am hoping they better cover the battles to destroy the spice mining and take over the planet.  Even the book sort of glossed over that and kept everything in close to Paul.  One chapter they are still fighting and then it skips and they have the Harkonnens hemmed in around the capitol. 
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Re: Dune
« Reply #221 on: August 25, 2023, 09:33:26 AM »
Goddamn it, it's official...

Dune part II has been pushed back to March 2024.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/24/dune-part-two-departs-2023-movie-calendar-amid-hollywood-strikes.html


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Re: Dune
« Reply #222 on: August 25, 2023, 10:02:33 AM »
Bummer. I just read that "Dune will likely not be affected". Bastards.

Millionaires gotta fight for better wages though, yo.
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« Reply #223 on: August 25, 2023, 10:03:52 AM »
Meanwhile except for rare exceptions like the above (Dune) 99% of people couldn't give a *expletive deleted*it about a Hollywood strike.
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« Reply #224 on: August 25, 2023, 10:06:39 AM »
Yeah, because everyone in the movie industry is a multi-millionaire.

Don't fall into that trap, dude.

Its just like falling into the trap of believing EVERY corporate CEO of EVERY company, earns multi thousands of times more money that their employees.
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