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Re: Dune
« Reply #225 on: August 25, 2023, 10:08:06 AM »
Meanwhile except for rare exceptions like the above 99% of people couldn't give a *expletive deleted*it about a Hollywood strike.

I should start another thread, but I recently really, really streamlined my streaming subscriptions. I wasn't watching a ton of TV before, but have really cut it way back with a tactical cancel/resubscribe and "suspend" policy on my services. I'm saving $100/mo and still watching the stuff I want to watch, if delayed a bit.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #226 on: August 25, 2023, 03:58:34 PM »
I am doing the same.  However, I just signed back up for YoutubeTV in preparation for college football starting. 
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Re: Dune
« Reply #227 on: August 25, 2023, 04:02:56 PM »
I just suspended Netflix.  Now the only streaming service I have that isn't bundled free with something else I use is HBO (not getting renewed when the year is up, and youtube premium for no commercials.

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« Reply #228 on: August 25, 2023, 04:05:50 PM »
Used to be there was 3-4 movies every year I wanted to go see. Now it's something like 1 every 3-4 years.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #229 on: August 25, 2023, 04:06:01 PM »
Yeah, because everyone in the movie industry is a multi-millionaire.

Don't fall into that trap, dude.

Its just like falling into the trap of believing EVERY corporate CEO of EVERY company, earns multi thousands of times more money that their employees.
I agree.  Most of the actors, writers, and other crew people are middle class and keep other jobs. 

It sucks that there are so many idiots that make the whole industry look bad.  (far too many of them don't just "look" bad)
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Re: Dune
« Reply #230 on: August 25, 2023, 04:12:00 PM »
I agree.  Most of the actors, writers, and other crew people are middle class and keep other jobs. 

It sucks that there are so many idiots that make the whole industry look bad.  (far too many of them don't just "look" bad)

Kathleen Kennedy for one who has destroyed every thing she's touched and yet she's still there.
I think it was in one of the Critical Drinker discussions someone mentioned she has a no fire clause in her contract. Now how the heck does someone get that put in unless they've got something on the big shots in company but it would explain why she wasn't fired a long time ago.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #231 on: August 25, 2023, 04:25:12 PM »
I just suspended Netflix.  Now the only streaming service I have that isn't bundled free with something else I use is HBO (not getting renewed when the year is up, and youtube premium for no commercials.

Do you mean canceled and will resubscribe, or actually suspended? I looked for a "suspend" function there and couldn't find one.

Hulu and Youtube TV made it really easy to suspend, and as much as I complain about Amazon, they make it super easy to cancel and resubscribe to all the streaming services they host. I was actually going to cancel the HBOMax I have through Amazon, but when I started, they offered me some ridiculous 75% off for three months deal to not kill it. So I'm on that for another month, then will kill it.  =D
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Re: Dune
« Reply #232 on: August 25, 2023, 04:43:02 PM »
Cancel and resubscribe.  They say as long as I pay at least 1 month every 14, all my history will be saved.

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« Reply #233 on: August 25, 2023, 05:53:19 PM »
They say as long as I pay at least 1 month every 14, all my history will be saved.

Oh, cool. I think I might do that as well. Paying for it 3 months out of the year will be more than enough to watch/catch up on anything of interest. Which, there hasn't been much for me with anything new they put out, and I'm sick of watching Arrested Development and Seinfeld reruns.

My Hulu restarts Monday, and the final episode of Justified City Primeval airs Tuesday, so I'll keep Hulu for a month to watch that, and then suspend it for another three or whatever their max is.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #234 on: August 25, 2023, 06:43:59 PM »
Why I don't care, most movies/shows nowadays have extremely lazy writing. I was hoping this show would be different but nope.

No, Ahsoka Won't Save Star Wars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=briM3doNrXA
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Re: Dune
« Reply #235 on: August 25, 2023, 08:20:43 PM »
Critical Drinker is being unnecessarily harsh, because that's his schtick.  Ashoka isn't OG Justified  or Season 1 of GoT, but it's a good show that is so far fun to watch.

Rosario is doing a good job portraying a character that has been fighting wars since literally puberty and seen everything she cared about destroyed,  and the Rebellion failing to live up to it's promise in real time.


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Re: Dune
« Reply #236 on: August 25, 2023, 09:05:07 PM »
Critical Drinker is being unnecessarily harsh, because that's his schtick.  Ashoka isn't OG Justified  or Season 1 of GoT, but it's a good show that is so far fun to watch.

Rosario is doing a good job portraying a character that has been fighting wars since literally puberty and seen everything she cared about destroyed,  and the Rebellion failing to live up to it's promise in real time.

Over time I've learn to tell when he exaggerating for effect but there are times even he can't.
Everything he goes on here fit the pattern of Kennedy era Star Wars, lazy writing, bland characters, Mary Sues.
As Rosario goes, I like the actress and the character of Ashoka and feel both deserve better.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #237 on: August 26, 2023, 12:51:28 PM »
Critical Drinker is being unnecessarily harsh, because that's his schtick.  Ashoka isn't OG Justified  or Season 1 of GoT, but it's a good show that is so far fun to watch.

Rosario is doing a good job portraying a character that has been fighting wars since literally puberty and seen everything she cared about destroyed,  and the Rebellion failing to live up to it's promise in real time.


I disagree.

The first two episodes of Ahsoka have been marred by a plodding pace, wooden acting, and plot twists that don't make sense (the captain allowing the Sith wannabes to board his ship, for example).   

There was a particularly cringeworthy moment when Hera did her "I'm a general so I can do what I want" bit at the shipyard, which reminded me of Holdo from The Last Jedi.  The strong-female-character-humiliates-male-character trope has been a staple of most everything KK has touched, including the latest Indiana Jones flick, and it is tiresome.

Sabine Wren is a quite different, and less interesting, version of what she was in Rebels, and has become too Mary Sue-ish.  (speaking of Rebels, the show seems to assume that the audience has already seen that series, which IMO is a mistake.  The story should be more self-contained.)

So far, Ahsoka isn't as bad as Boba Fett, Kenobi, or season 3 of The Mandalorian, but it could have been a lot better.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #238 on: February 16, 2024, 04:18:46 PM »
Man Just Hopes Western Civilization Holds Out A Few More Weeks So He Can See ‘Dune: Part Two’
https://babylonbee.com/news/man-just-hopes-western-civilization-holds-out-a-few-more-weeks-so-he-can-see-dune-part-2
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Re: Dune
« Reply #239 on: February 17, 2024, 11:36:08 AM »
Critical Drinker is being unnecessarily harsh, because that's his schtick.  Ashoka isn't OG Justified  or Season 1 of GoT, but it's a good show that is so far fun to watch.

Rosario is doing a good job portraying a character that has been fighting wars since literally puberty and seen everything she cared about destroyed,  and the Rebellion failing to live up to it's promise in real time.
Critical Drinker and others normally watch the shows multiple times to get all their notes and clips on the shows.  If a show is even a little bad, I imagine that makes it easy to nitpick and pull out every little negative point.  A show with an engaging story will carry you along and you either won't notice the flaws or can more easily ignore them.  I think that is a big reason why most reviews are either really positive or really bad.   

I might also add that he pays more attention to story structure and character development and I often don't notice those things on a single viewing.

Then there is the fact that this is Star Wars and there is an expectation that the shows be a cut above.  Disney doesn't appear to be reaching that level or really even demanding that quality.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #240 on: February 29, 2024, 08:17:32 AM »
Speaking of Critical Drinker he's seen it and he's happy with only some very minor, and I mean very minor, nitpicking

 Dune Part Two - The Movie We All Needed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOtTsNnDnI8&t=308s
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Re: Dune
« Reply #241 on: February 29, 2024, 08:42:42 AM »
I can't freaking wait to see it.

My friend Dave is going to come in from Texas to see it with me.

We saw the original together in 1984, and we saw part 1 together in 2022.

But, I told him it's going to have to wait a week or two until I'm A) damned sure that Seren's not going to be sick as a human from the last round of chemo (so far so good), and B) until I can get the house whipped into shape a bit because it's such a disaster (also proceeding. Slowly, but getting better.)
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Re: Dune
« Reply #242 on: February 29, 2024, 08:55:18 AM »
I am bouncing back and forth between really wanting to see it, and really not wanting to set foot in a movie theater.


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« Reply #243 on: February 29, 2024, 09:03:09 AM »
I am bouncing back and forth between really wanting to see it, and really not wanting to set foot in a movie theater.

Ha! That's where I am, but likely won't set foot in the theater. This will be one of the few movies though, where I'll pay the Amazon "early rental fee" of $20 to watch it before it's released on DVD and streaming.
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« Reply #244 on: February 29, 2024, 09:09:50 AM »
I'm looking forwards to seeing it on DVD.  I really liked the first one; the early reviews are saying this going to be better.

Hopefully it will shut up the "white savior trope" complaining.

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Re: Dune
« Reply #245 on: February 29, 2024, 09:27:02 AM »
Hopefully it will shut up the "white savior trope" complaining.

I wouldn't be holding my breath on that.
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« Reply #246 on: February 29, 2024, 09:30:08 AM »
I am bouncing back and forth between really wanting to see it, and really not wanting to set foot in a movie theater.


Ha! That's where I am, but likely won't set foot in the theater. This will be one of the few movies though, where I'll pay the Amazon "early rental fee" of $20 to watch it before it's released on DVD and streaming.

Swore off theaters a long time ago for a whole host of reasons

I don't like crowds
There's always some jackass or jackasses, often in packs nowadays, there to spoil the experience.
Kids directly in my line of sight texting through 90% of the movie with their screens on max brightness.
Grossly overpriced snacks.
My viewing area and seats at home doesn't smell like a hobo camp in august.
My shots don't have to up to date at home.
Bed bugs and who knows what else wanting to hitch a ride home.
At home I can pause the movie and/or go back and review a scene a 2nd time if need be if I missed something
Sitting through 30 minutes of loud previews of movies never in a million years I will want to see

Now that said this has almost made me want to put all that aside and go to one for this
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« Reply #247 on: February 29, 2024, 09:34:22 AM »
Swore off theaters a long time ago for a whole host of reasons

I don't like crowds
There's always some jackass or jackasses, often in packs nowadays, there to spoil the experience.
Kids directly in my line of sight texting through 90% of the movie with their screens on max brightness.
Grossly overpriced snacks.
My viewing area and seats at home doesn't smell like a hobo camp in august.
My shots don't have to up to date at home.
Bed bugs and who knows what else wanting to hitch a ride home.
At home I can pause the movie and/or go back and review a scene a 2nd time if need be if I missed something
Sitting through 30 minutes of loud previews of movies never in a million years I will want to see

Now that said this has almost made me want to put all that aside and go to one for this

All similar reasons to mine. I used to consider it weighing loss of movie quality over the gain of eliminating all the other theater stuff. Now though, with the current 75" TV and sound system, ATMOS, etc., I don't really believe I'm losing any quality worth putting up with the movie theater negatives.
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Re: Dune
« Reply #248 on: February 29, 2024, 09:51:47 AM »
There aren't many movies I want to see that I feel MUST be seen in the theater.

Blade Runner 2049, Dune I and now Dune II DEMAND to be seen in the theater.

Most movies I'm happy to wait until they come out on Max or Showtime or Hulu streaming.

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« Reply #249 on: February 29, 2024, 10:00:56 AM »
All the reviews I have seen so far recommend seeing it on the big screen.  They meant IMAX, but I don't have one of those very close.  Most everyone thought it was a really good movie.  They wanted to get into nitpicks about the books and stuff, but can't without spoilers.  I don't expect this movie to be 100% faithful to the book.  As long as it is a good movie, I think that is all I can expect.  I heard the gear porn with the ships and vehicles was pretty good. 

I want to see it tonight as I know youtubers I watch will eventually spoil it and I would rather not have that happen.  I think I will check how full the seating appears to be for the early showings this afternoon after I get off work.
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