Trump / Biden Debate #1

[Ben]

I ended up pausing it and then fast forwarding through to try and catch anything of interest. Here's one - Biden says "antifa is an idea, not an organization" while attacking "white supremacy" and excusing antifa riots.

[WLJ]

Every question is Orange Man Bad

[MechAg94]

Had to bail out, couldn't listen to it any longer.

It's a WWE 2 on 1 match.

I am listening to the Steven Crowder livestream.  That is a little easier to listen to, but I still want it to be over.

[DittoHead]

Every debate I wish they would cut the mic when a candidate's time is up, but they never do that.  

Would have been nice, yet again.

[just Warren]

 A glass booth like in the old quiz show days would do the trick.

[WLJ]

Trump could have been more tactful

[WLJ]

Steve on PT News is drunk. He was playing a drinking game but gave up trying to keep up and just started drinking whenever.

[just Warren]

I'm biased towards Trump of course and even with that bias I don't think he did as well as he could have.

He wasn't able to body-slam Biden like I was expecting him to do. And Biden held up really well.

So I'll give Trump a very slight win here.

It would be like the old-school Brady-in-his-prime Patriots only managed to eek out a one point win, at home, against the Browns.

[zxcvbob]

The debate was a few minutes late getting started, so I got to hear the before-debate commentators pontificating about how Trump had already lost.   

What a *expletive deleted*it-show.  Chris Wallace was not in control.  As has already been said, he should have switches to cut the mikes.  (that's the main thing I came here to say)  Maybe have 3 positions; ON, OFF, and -20dB. (or something like -20, at that level you'd be able to hear them but just barely)

Biden was mostly coherent when Trump allowed him to talk.  Trump was generally an ahole, talking over Biden and Wallace all the time, but he did make a few good points. 

I couldn't watch the whole thing, but I saw most of it.  I think Biden won but not by much.

[WLJ]

The debate was a few minutes late getting started, so I got to hear the before-debate commentators pontificating about how Trump had already lost.  

What a *expletive deleted*it-show.  Chris Wallace was not in control.  As has already been said, he should have switches to cut the mikes.  (that's the main thing I came here to say)  Maybe have 3 positions; ON, OFF, and -20dB. (or something like -20, at that level you'd be able to hear them but just barely)

Biden was mostly coherent when Trump allowed him to talk.  Trump was generally an ahole, talking over Biden and Wallace all the time, but he did make a few good points.  

I couldn't watch the whole thing, but I saw most of it.  I think Biden won but not by much.

He was getting pissed getting asked what were basically attack questions of which some were based on a distortion or flat out lie, and watching Biden flat out lie several times and whenever Trump tried to call out Biden on them or make a point Wallace stepped in to protect Biden.

[TommyGunn]

I appreciate all the fine commentary, fellas!   Now I don't have to watch the recording of the cacophony  I made because I really did not want to watch it unless afterwards  it was reviewed as sane.

I did see the final few minutes when Mathews  cut it off prohibiting Trump from responding to a Biden lie.  Thankfully Trump had interrupted to point out it was a lie .....

"Trump could have been more tactful," WLJ.   Trump .... tactful?  

One Fox commentor,  whose name escapes my memory-addled mind at the moment,  suggested the debate will not change anyone's mind.  
I can live with that.  Do debates  ever really change minds??  

[WLJ]

"Trump could have been more tactful," WLJ.   Trump .... tactful?  

Thought about editing afterwards with
But hey, that's Trump"
But was too lazy to do so

[Angel Eyes]

Mighty fine shindig.

[Perd Hapley]

I usually don't bother with theatrical stuff, like debates and speeches and town halls, but the wife thought it was going to be fun. She made it almost to the end, but I watched the whole thing.

It was hilarious for a while, but as usual, I was beyond annoyed at the anti-American spewing nonsense. It wouldn't bother me, except that I know millions of voters are suckered by that nonsense. (Especially the bit where he dishonestly accused Trump of being mean to his son the veteran.) And, as usual, I was disappointed that the Pro-American didn't get the shots in that I wanted him to get. Not a stellar performance by either of them, but Biden managed to stay awake and mostly coherent in his anti-American diatribe.

Guess I'll go back to ignoring the theater.

[HankB]

For the first 2 minutes, candidates ought not interrupt each other - and the microphones of the NON responding candidates ought to be cut off for that time.

Maybe leave both mics on during the open discussion part.

Chris Wallace clearly favored Biden - but then, he always was a bit of a lefty. I remember when he was interviewing Pat Buchanan during his presidential run he asked "Would there be any place in a Buchanan administration for David Duke?" Pat instantly gave a one word answer - NO - and shut up. Wallace wasn't very happy.

Back to the debate - Trump scored a hit when he said he was debating Wallace as well as Biden, but I thought he interrupted too much; I think he could have scored more solid "hits" on Joe if he'd waited his turn to talk. Biden spewed nonsense and was never called on it by Wallace, but since he didn't soil himself or wander aimlessly off stage, most media ABCNBCCBSMSNBCCNNNYT pundits will claim he won the debate.

Me, I would have debated Biden a bit differently than Trump did, but hey, I'm not a billionaire living in the White House, so what do I know?  

[griz]

I ended up watching a little less than a hour of the middle of the debate two five year olds arguing over who which one is smarter.  Guess I'll skip the rest.

[Perd Hapley]

Trump should have explained to Wallace that no one needed to calm down his supporters, and that white supremacists have nothing to do with him. And he should have demanded an apology for both. Not that he'd get it, but he should have laid down the markers.

[Boomhauer]

We should replace debates with trial by combat. No guns but clubs, knives, etc are allowed. May the odds forever be in your favor!

[Ron]

Well, I'm shocked to see the media mostly calling it a wash this morning.

I certainly thought Joe managing to make it through the night would be enough for him to be declared the winner.

The portion I tuned into was just a *expletive deleted*it show so I couldn't say one did better than the other.

Chris Wallace was NOT fair and balanced.

Don't forget, Bidens MO for decades has been to verbally bully, attack and even challenge to fight those who challenge his positions. If nothing else Trump shut that tactic down and neutralized Biden's tough guy act.

   

[WLJ]

Think of the children!

    Jake Tapper says his friend’s 6th grade daughter “burst into tears, had to run to bed” because she was “so appalled” by Trump during debate. pic.twitter.com/uNiQVsYkES

    — Breaking911 (@Breaking911) September 30, 2020

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/09/29/cnns-jake-tapper-explains-how-trump-sent-friends-appalled-6th-grade-daughter-running-to-bed-in-tears-during-the-debate/

[Ben]

Well, I'm shocked to see the media mostly calling it a wash this morning.

Well, minus CNN.

I also am surprised this morning. I've now listened to a few interviews involving R&D politicians and R&D pundits on split screens, and both sides have basically agreed that the debate was a shitshow with only minimal nods to "their guy".

I will say that this reminded me why I was anti-Trump during the 2016 primaries.

Best line heard: "It was like a Real Housewives of LA renunion show".

[Ben]

Think of the children!https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/09/29/cnns-jake-tapper-explains-how-trump-sent-friends-appalled-6th-grade-daughter-running-to-bed-in-tears-during-the-debate/

If that actually happened, then maybe someone should call child services to investigate the parents for creating an environment where a six year old has a breakdown over a presidential debate. At that age, I might have cried if they'd canceled Huckleberry Hound, but I barely knew what a president was.

[Ron]

Over the years Chris Wallace has maintained a decent reputation among those on the right.

Hopefully his partisan performance last night has finally burned that bridge.

He is leftist opposition working behind our lines to control the narrative and provide cover for the left.

I remember back in the day when Chris Mathews also had a decent reputation as being fair, in the hayday of Hardball with Chris Mathews. They are subtle and sneaky and work hard to trick and deceive the gullible. They speak reasonable and conciliatory words to put the right at ease but their hearts are far far from you.

Chris Wallace like Chris Mathews is the enemy of most everything you believe in and hold dear.

[MechAg94]

If that actually happened, then maybe someone should call child services to investigate the parents for creating an environment where a six year old has a breakdown over a presidential debate. At that age, I might have cried if they'd canceled Huckleberry Hound, but I barely knew what a president was.

More than likely the kid was freaked out by the parents cussing and yelling at the TV. 

[Ben]

More than likely the kid was freaked out by the parents cussing and yelling at the TV. 

Yeah, but that's Trump's fault.