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Something going on in Vienna
« on: November 02, 2020, 04:22:29 PM »
Short on details so far but there are reports of several shooters

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    Details coming in about a significant terrorist attack happening in Vienna. https://t.co/gjmLOfu8cC

    — Bryan S. Myrick (@BryanMyrick) November 2, 2020

    BREAKING: All public transportation halted in #Vienna—as shootings & hostage situations reported throughout the city in coordinated attack. #Austria

    — SV News 🚨 (@SVNewsAlerts) November 2, 2020
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/11/02/breaking-terrorist-attack-with-multiple-perpetrators-underway-in-vienna-austria-multiple-casualties-hostages-reported-videos/
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2020, 04:28:20 PM »
Quote from: American Jewish Committee
Updated report: We are in contact with sources on the ground in Vienna. The motives and targets of this attack remain unclear at this time. We will provide further updates as they become available.

Coordinated shootings, at least one at a synagogue, video of a male with dark skin and hair shooting a pistol and yelling "Allahu Akbar!" .......

I guess I'll be the first to call this one for the Religion of Peace.

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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2020, 04:29:18 PM »
Coordinated shootings, at least one at a synagogue, video of a male with dark skin and hair shooting a pistol and yelling "Allahu Akbar!" .......

I guess I'll be the first to call this one for the Religion of Peace.

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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2020, 04:29:35 PM »
I blame Trump and the NRA.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2020, 04:29:54 PM »
Coordinated shootings, at least one at a synagogue, video of a male with dark skin and hair shooting a pistol and yelling "Allahu Akbar!" .......

I guess I'll be the first to call this one for the Religion of Peace.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2020, 04:30:08 PM »
I blame Trump and the NRA.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2020, 04:33:15 PM »
France has seen several beheadings recently as well.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2020, 04:35:05 PM »
Obviously this is due globular warmulating.  If Trump had only signed on to the Geneva treaty.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2020, 04:35:51 PM »
Obviously this is due globular warmulating.  If Trump had only signed on to the Geneva treaty.

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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2020, 04:38:17 PM »
Anyone heard about this lovely event in Kabul?

I know I hadn't until I went to the BBC World News page...

Attack on Kabul University kills 22

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54750839
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2020, 04:39:31 PM »
I blame Trump and the NRA.

And it is right and proper that you do so...
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2020, 04:55:20 PM »
Clearly an isolated incident, in no way representative of...

AND it's the mohamedans.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2020, 05:03:56 PM »
This diversity and multiculturalism is their strength I've been assured.



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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2020, 05:11:50 PM »
It's Trump's white supremacists.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2020, 06:30:23 PM »
Coordinated shootings, at least one at a synagogue, video of a male with dark skin and hair shooting a pistol and yelling "Allahu Akbar!" .......

I guess I'll be the first to call this one for the Religion of Peace.

Just saw the tweeted video: taqiyah, beard, perahan, sandals.  Yeeeaaah you're probably spot on.

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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2020, 06:32:30 PM »
France has seen several beheadings recently as well.

The musselmen probably don't want to play that game with the French; the French perfected it two centuries ago.

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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2020, 08:02:42 PM »
Some people did something. People worried about post election violence here ought to keep an eye on Europe. If even soyboy Macron found his nutsack in his wife’s purse I imagine the actual hard core nativists are close to making hitler look like just a crappy artist.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2020, 08:06:02 PM »
Just Europe getting what they deserve for their letting the radical Muslims immigrate, multiply, continue radicalization, etc while claiming that anybody who did not agree with such actions was racist.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2020, 08:28:41 PM »
Getting what they voted for, good and hard.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2020, 09:18:50 PM »
If history repeats itself,  I want to see Sobieski and his Winged Hussars in whatever form they'd take in 2020 deal with the goat *expletive deleted*ers.

Also,  relevant Sabaton:  https://youtu.be/rcYhYO02f98

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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2020, 09:51:26 PM »
Just Europe getting what they deserve for their letting the radical Muslims immigrate, multiply, continue radicalization, etc while claiming that anybody who did not agree with such actions was racist.

One could draw some parallels between France and Portland.

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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2020, 10:01:48 PM »
Those who are interested really should read the Macron speech from Les Mureaux a few days ago. The speech was like 1.5 hours but I found the English transcript pretty easy read.

The coexistence of Islam in a free republic, is not an easy thing, maybe not a possible thing, but it's France's reality now, unless they go full ethnic cleansing on a population that they just invited in. So I have to give them/him credit for not pretending there's no problem anymore...now that literally everything is happening that literally everyone said was going to happen, they appear to be taking no-apologies, real action to try to basically neuter Islam within their borders and try to keep it un-radical. Can this be done? I don't know but it's a noble experiment. It's kinda like a wake-up moment. But unfortunately some of the steps they are taking are also not-so-libre after all, such as banning homeschooling, sticking their noses into the mosques and other islamic instututions, and as far as I can tell, imposing something like affirmative action to prevent islamic nexuses from forming in certain industries and secular institutions. This basically requires a lot of France cracking down on wrong thinking and regulation of religious practice. Which is scary, but you have to admit the strategy of just doing nothing while a parallel society emerges, which is what Britain and US seem to do, although it's not as big of a problem in the US, has a certain end result, and they are smart enough to see it, although weren't smart enough to act earlier, they are culturally strong enough to not want it to happen, and seem to be doing something about it, but the world will be watching to see if their republic survives, or if they turn into a China where religious minorities that threaten the state are just persecuted. What's really the difference compared to China sending Uygurs to reeducation camps? It's history in the making, I do believe.
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2020, 10:31:19 PM »
... the world will be watching to see if their republic survives, or if they turn into a China where religious minorities that threaten the state are just persecuted. What's really the difference compared to China sending Uygurs to reeducation camps? It's history in the making, I do believe.

Were/are the Uygurs threatening the state? Or is it simply that having a religion is deemed to be a threat to the state?
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Re: Something going on in Vienna
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2020, 11:24:13 PM »
Were/are the Uygurs threatening the state? Or is it simply that having a religion is deemed to be a threat to the state?

I don't really know what the Uygurs have done or what the PRC considers to be threatening. I assume the PRC takes no chances and gives no benefits of the doubt. They probably view any sufficiently advanced religion to be a threat to the state.

The dictates of a secular, enlightenment-era republic demand that you do nothing about people's religious beliefs until they commit some crime against person or property. The problem is, what if a culture or a religion becomes imported and propogates itself to the point where your republic is gone or compromised? Without a defense against this, maybe free republics cannot last. That is to say, perhaps they are metastable or they rely on a delicate balance to maintain. I don't find this hard to believe. Insert Benjamin Franklin quote here. Maybe free, secular republics don't actually work over the long term.

Another question is, can a free republic mount a defense against cultural/religious takeover, without losing it's essence? Must we destroy the republic to keep it?

I like to joke that Europe is way ahead of the US...in the descent into communism. But it's true that in most ways they are literally way ahead of us, in both problems and solutions. In a lot of ways, we just get off easy here with less pressure, and we get away with handwaving things and hoping they go away. I really don't envy what they are now up against and I can't armchair quarterback what they are doing when leaders in the US can't even talk plainly about our race problems. So far in the US we have gotten away with pretending that multiculturalism is going to work; in France they are past pretending, but what do you...do? It will be interesting.

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