Polymer80 Raided By ATF In An Apparent Move Against “Ghost Guns”

[WLJ]

It's certainly one reason I like to bring cash into the LGS, so nobody knows what guns I buy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OaF-j8x5Vc

[Ben]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OaF-j8x5Vc

Background checks are required if you’re purchasing a handgun from a licensed federal firearms dealer. However, an Idaho Concealed Weapons License (CWL) exempts the holder from the federal requirement of a background check prior to purchase of a firearm.

I have it on good authority that my LGS has a big red button connected to their records storage room. 

[WLJ]

Ky has the same exemption on the background checks

[Angel Eyes]

Ky has the same exemption on the background checks

I doubt that exempts the buyer from filling out Form 4473.

[WLJ]

I doubt that exempts the buyer from filling out Form 4473.

No it doesn't. Not aware of anyway around that except though private sales.

[dogmush]

No it doesn't. Not aware of anyway around that except though private sales.

Or building your own. 

Which is why the feds are pissed off about P80's.

[WLJ]

Or building your own. 

Which is why the feds are pissed off about P80's.

Well, there WAS that

[Brad Johnson]

I doubt that exempts the buyer from filling out Form 4473.

If they're like Texas, the only change is accepting the concealed carry license in lieu of calling in the NICS check (possession of a license is considered proof of the NICS check). 4473 is a fed requirement either way.

Brad

[230RN]

I have it on good authority that my LGS has a big red button connected to their records storage room. 

Thermite?  Napalm?  Other?

Asking for someone else.

[WLJ]

P80 ordered to pay DC $4 million for selling 19 kits to DC residents

‘Ghost Gun’ Maker Ordered To Pay D.C. $4 Million, Barred From Selling To Residents
https://dcist.com/story/22/08/11/ghost-gun-maker-ordered-to-pay-d-c-4-million/

Polymer80 ordered to pay millions to DC
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2022/08/12/polymer80-dc-n61392

[Pb]

Making your own gun is just as innocent as writing your own book.

If the RKBA was treated as something other than the red headed stepchild of the Bill of Rights this would be obvious.

[MechAg94]

They always call these guns "untraceable".  How many of the guns they seize from criminals are traceable?  I bet it is less than 50%.

[Jim147]

If they are untraceable how do they know they sold them to people in DC? 

[WLJ]

If they are untraceable how do they know they sold them to people in DC?

Hello Visa and Master Card, we would like some info

[MechAg94]

If they are untraceable how do they know they sold them to people in DC?

Since it is a settlement, perhaps that has already be established. 

[WLJ]

Several Polylmer80 threads so I had to pick one.

One domino starts another

BALTIMORE -- Baltimore City has reached a $1.2 million settlement in its lawsuit against the leading manufacturer of untraceable, unserialized "ghost guns" plaguing the city, Mayor Brandon Scott announced Wednesday.

The city filed its lawsuit against Polymer80 Inc. in 2022, accusing the company of negligence, public nuisance, and violations of the Maryland Consumer Protection Act.

The lawsuit alleged the company intentionally undermined federal and state firearms laws by designing, manufacturing, selling, and providing ghost gun kits and parts to buyers who do not undergo a background check.

The mayor's office said all relief sought in the lawsuit was secured in the settlement. That includes:

    Permanently prohibiting Polymer80 from advertising in Maryland or selling ghost guns to Maryland residents
    Polymer80 must ban its dealers in nearby states from selling ghost guns to Maryland residents,
    Cease all customer support in Maryland,
    Polymer80 is required to provide quarterly reports to the city documenting all sales of ghost guns in neighboring states.

In 2023, the Baltimore Police Department seized 462 ghost guns. Already in 2024 year to date, BPD has already seized 43 ghost guns, an increase of 30% compared to this time last year.

Would be willing to bet 99.9% of those are guns with the S/N ground off since it they often seem to be referring to them as "ghost guns" now

Baltimore reaches $1.2M settlement in lawsuit against 'ghost gun' manufacturer Polymer80
https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/baltimore-ghost-guns-lawsuit-polymer80-settlement/

[WLJ]

Guns and Gadgets just put this up

BREAKING: Polymer80 Closes After Being Sued Out Of Business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf-TbFrqfgM

Here's the X post

https://x.com/SpaceBound3DP/status/1823721120396402841

[Bogie]

It's a good idea to keep in mind that most police officers/LEOs are not highly paid individuals and many of them live paycheck to paycheck.

Starting St. Louis cops make about double what I do.

[Hawkmoon]

Starting St. Louis cops make about double what I do.

I live in a small town in the Northeast. A local newspaper annually publishes a list of the ten highest-paid municipal employees. Cops usually occupy 7 or 8 of the top 10 spots. Most are well north of $100k.

[HankB]

Guns and Gadgets just put this up

BREAKING: Polymer80 Closes After Being Sued Out Of Business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf-TbFrqfgM

Here's the X post

https://x.com/SpaceBound3DP/status/1823721120396402841

They should do like the Chicom companies do when they lose a patent lawsuit - shut down, dissolve . . . and let someone else pick up the (leased) equipment and (leased) space, reopening as a completely different company.

TA DA! Welcome Polymer81!

[dogmush]

It's a good idea to keep in mind that most police officers/LEOs are not highly paid individuals and many of them live paycheck to paycheck.
If it comes down to enforcing unconstitutional orders or being unemployed it is my opinion that 95%+ will default to their paycheck.

That can be their eulogy then.

[lee n. field]

Starting St. Louis cops make about double what I do.

Here, brand  new cop walking in the door makes more than I ever did.