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Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« on: December 12, 2020, 08:51:38 PM »
Can 2020 get any more bizarre?

‘It needs to be destroyed’: The Vatican unveils its Sumerian-influenced sci-fi nativity scene
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/12/it-needs-to-be-destroyed-the-vatican-unveils-its-sumerian-influenced-sci-fi-nativity-scene/

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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2020, 09:28:13 PM »
All it needs is a Mandalorian and Baby Yoda.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2020, 09:29:37 PM »
I am not exactly sure what I am looking at here. 
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2020, 09:33:20 PM »
Quote from: MillCreek on December 12, 2020, 09:29:37 PM
I am not exactly sure what I am looking at here. 

That's because you're not sufficiently woke, you cisnormative colonialist oppressor.

But seriously, to think that art has gone from St. Peter's Basilica and the Sistine Chapel to . . . whatever the hell this is.     :facepalm:

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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2020, 09:34:25 PM »
This Pope has got to go.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2020, 09:44:20 PM »
Maybe they are trying to tell us they knew all along about the alien life secrets Trump is sitting on. Special extra-terrestrial delivery.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2020, 10:41:26 PM »
Quote from: MillCreek on December 12, 2020, 09:29:37 PM
I am not exactly sure what I am looking at here. 

Ditto.  I even tried my Bizarro eyeglasses.  No joy.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2020, 10:58:31 PM »
Why is the facehugger on the astronaut's chest?
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2020, 11:04:26 PM »
Sad.

Catholics used to be pretty good at communicating the gospel through images. Not just in a few, high-profile artworks, but through something as ubiquitous as the crucifix. A man nailed to a wooden crosspiece, his body twisted in pain. Powerful; relatable. Then there's this spaceman with a baby bjorn, and a B movie monster behind them. What in the actual?
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2020, 11:25:39 PM »
Quote from: just Warren on December 12, 2020, 10:58:31 PM
Why is the facehugger on the astronaut's chest?

You're not the only one who saw that ..... thing  and thought: ALIEN.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2020, 07:34:11 AM »
That my friends is modern art.

The point behind it is to be absurd, disturbing and defiling by claiming to represent the true, good and beautiful.

It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

It is not a nativity scene. It does not represent anything Christian.

Words have meaning.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2020, 08:14:44 AM »
Quote from: Ron on December 13, 2020, 07:34:11 AM
That my friends is modern art.

The point behind it is to be absurd, disturbing and defiling by claiming to represent the true, good and beautiful.

It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

It is not a nativity scene. It does not represent anything Christian.

Words have meaning.








That’s exactly what it is for- to destroy beauty/asthetics and demoralize.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2020, 01:01:03 PM »
Quote from: Ben on December 12, 2020, 09:34:25 PM
This Pope has got to go.

He's not like a regular pope. He's a cool pope.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2020, 01:46:51 PM »
He's one dope pope!
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2020, 02:17:33 PM »
Quote from: Ron on December 13, 2020, 07:34:11 AM
That my friends is modern art.

The point behind it is to be absurd, disturbing and defiling by claiming to represent the true, good and beautiful.

It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

It is not a nativity scene. It does not represent anything Christian.

Words have meaning.

Spot on.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2020, 02:21:18 PM »
Quote from: Ron on December 13, 2020, 07:34:11 AM
That my friends is modern art.

The point behind it is to be absurd, disturbing and defiling by claiming to represent the true, good and beautiful.

It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

It is not a nativity scene. It does not represent anything Christian.

Words have meaning.

Like this?
And your tax dollars help pay for it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

What do you think the reaction would have been from the left not to mention certain others if it was Muhammad instead? Think the "art" galley would still be standing?
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2020, 09:54:41 PM »
Can't you see it isn't a Nativity scene but a summoning by the Catholic church for the demon Flauros to kill all the heretics on the Solstice.
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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2020, 10:28:27 PM »
Quote from: fistful on December 13, 2020, 01:01:03 PM
He's not like a regular pope. He's a cool pope.
"Cool" is another way of saying "Not so hot."

Pope Francis - President Harris - it seems we've somehow become the Bizzaro World I read about in comic books when I was very young.
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2020, 11:43:38 PM »
Ron said,
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It is subversion and propaganda not against Christianity, but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God.

Allow me to amend that slightly:

"...but against the very individual that trusts and believes in God or his own sensibilities and rationality."

(Please note the "or.")

In other words, so that ultimately we will accept the notion that  2 + 2 = 5.

Doesn't most of the crap from the leftists this year fit that motivation?

We have a whole thread on "AOC's" pronouncements.  Look it over. Preponderance of evidence?

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Re: Say hello to the Vatican's 2020 Nativity Scene
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2020, 04:51:29 PM »
I guess just be glad they didn't make it a scene of Mary aborting Jesus
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2020, 01:22:05 PM »
The object in the background looks like a knight from Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail.
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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2020, 01:50:15 PM »
Quote from: adively on December 16, 2020, 01:22:05 PM
The object in the background looks like a knight from Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail.

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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2020, 01:57:18 PM »
Wait, is that a white rabbit?
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