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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4050 on: January 16, 2025, 11:39:34 AM »
I also noted that the NG was pretty slow getting off the pad.  I saw elsewhere that the TWR of the stack for the first 15 seconds was around 1.12.  I think F9 is close to 1.3, and Superheavy is currently around 1.5.  Reusability benefits from a much higher TWR, and low TWR is a hallmark of disposable rockets.

SH lights it engines and shouts See Ya! How much a full payload if going to effect that I'm not totally sure but I'm sure it will have some effect. By the time we're seeing full payloads maybe they'll be on top of Block 2 boosters firing Raptor 3s. So much of this is in flux and subject to change.

Watching BONG last night I was thinking if it's that slow with a light payload what is it going to be like with a full one? How far back were the engines throttled back if at all?
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4051 on: January 16, 2025, 11:43:31 AM »

Watching BONG last night I was thinking if it's that slow with a light payload what is it going to be like with a full one? How far back were the engines throttled back if at all?

Kinda like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFdohwm8Quc&t=82s
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4052 on: January 16, 2025, 11:49:06 AM »
Kinda like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFdohwm8Quc&t=82s

The Astra Slide
IIRC I saw somewhere that they have since stated that if they hadn't triggered the FTS it could have made it.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4053 on: January 16, 2025, 01:39:09 PM »
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4054 on: January 16, 2025, 04:17:44 PM »
Fuel lines getting chilly

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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4055 on: January 16, 2025, 05:27:52 PM »
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4056 on: January 16, 2025, 05:31:46 PM »
Nothing but blue skies. Not a single cloud.
Yesterday you couldn't even see the tower
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« Reply #4057 on: January 16, 2025, 05:35:00 PM »
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4058 on: January 16, 2025, 05:37:56 PM »
All 33 burning
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4059 on: January 16, 2025, 05:40:51 PM »
1 engine didn't fire for boost back
Go for catch
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« Reply #4060 on: January 16, 2025, 05:42:24 PM »
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4061 on: January 16, 2025, 05:44:22 PM »
CATCH!
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4062 on: January 16, 2025, 05:46:26 PM »
Starship 33 has failed.  Loss of data, engines shutting down one by one.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4063 on: January 16, 2025, 05:47:49 PM »
Maybe need to fix something on the Block 2 design.
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« Reply #4064 on: January 16, 2025, 05:48:31 PM »
Starship bingo coming right up
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4065 on: January 16, 2025, 05:49:15 PM »
CATCH!

Amazing catch!  What a sight!
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4066 on: January 16, 2025, 05:52:49 PM »
Maybe need to fix something on the Block 2 design.

From what is being said, there were so many changes that it's almost a new ship. If that's the case, then a failure or two wouldn't be unexpected.  It is a test regime, after all.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4067 on: January 16, 2025, 05:54:25 PM »
From what is being said, there were so many changes that it's almost a new ship.

Yep
Will have to wait to see what Elon and SpX says what the problem is.
Alex was saying he spotted some fire at on of the flaps

But for the moment where is it coming down?
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« Reply #4068 on: January 16, 2025, 05:56:30 PM »
Meanwhile the booster looks good and in far better shape than the last one.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4069 on: January 16, 2025, 05:59:35 PM »
It would be really cool if the booster is in reusable condition.  Don't know if they would actually reuse it, but it would certainly confirm they are on the right track with its design and construction.
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« Reply #4070 on: January 16, 2025, 06:00:47 PM »
You can see a fire in the flap hinge https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1880025107948794244

So appears to be an internal fire
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4071 on: January 16, 2025, 06:04:20 PM »
People reporting debris coming down near Turks and Caicos
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4072 on: January 16, 2025, 06:08:45 PM »
Incoming!

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Starship Flight 7 breaking up and re-entering over Turks and Caicos

Video
https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115
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« Reply #4073 on: January 16, 2025, 06:10:12 PM »
Another video https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662

This should trigger the FAA
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #4074 on: January 16, 2025, 06:23:49 PM »
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Wife in Turks and Caicos just shot this video right now.  Is this potential UAP?

https://x.com/brakeyourcycle/status/1880028197208686869
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