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The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« on: July 09, 2021, 07:37:15 PM »
The FBI apparently set up a fake store that sold secure encrypted phones. Ostensibly to catch organized crime guys.

I know we here (including me) have in the past discussed trading our phones in for Google free secure phones. Now it appears you really have to research who you would by one of those from. They also supplied a secure messaging app with it, so even those are suspect now unless thoroughly researched.

https://gizmodo.com/the-fbis-fake-encrypted-honeypot-phones-are-showing-up-1847252989
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2021, 09:00:41 PM »
Big Brother is everywhere these days.  Welcome to 1984.  Public spy cameras, smart TV's, tracking cell phones, you name it, they can and will do it.
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2021, 12:04:43 AM »
Sounds like there's potential to have a lot of fun with an "encrypted" phone you know - know! - is being monitored.
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2021, 12:15:15 AM »
Right now some FBI agent is looking in my phone and muttering to himself "More *expletive deleted*ing cat photos"
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2021, 10:32:03 AM »
Quote from: HankB on July 10, 2021, 12:04:43 AM
Sounds like there's potential to have a lot of fun with an "encrypted" phone you know - know! - is being monitored.

Get a couple of friends and start planning the alien invasion and discussing interdimensional travelers.
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2021, 01:27:03 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 10, 2021, 10:32:03 AM
Get a couple of friends and start planning the alien invasion and discussing interdimensional travelers.
Better to keep things down to earth and make it plausible - drop names. ("Hunter" . . . "Mr.Big" . . . "You mean Hunter's Daddy?" . . . "If you overpay for a painting, it's not a bribe" . . . "Nancy from California and Chuck from New York" . . . )
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2021, 02:26:09 PM »
Quote from: HankB on July 10, 2021, 01:27:03 PM
Better to keep things down to earth and make it plausible - drop names. ("Hunter" . . . "Mr.Big" . . . "You mean Hunter's Daddy?" . . . "If you overpay for a painting, it's not a bribe" . . . "Nancy from California and Chuck from New York" . . . )

It wouldn't do any good.  You would just be informing the FBI about what they need to cover up next.
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2021, 06:39:52 PM »
"Open channel D."    =D   [tinfoil]
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2021, 06:41:32 PM »
The chair has a long mustache.
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2021, 06:44:22 PM »
Climb Mount Niitaka
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2021, 07:14:53 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 10, 2021, 06:41:32 PM
The chair has a long mustache.

How many lights does the chair see?
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2021, 07:39:27 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 10, 2021, 06:41:32 PM
The chair has a long mustache.
John is against the wall?

Wonder how many of this forum's youngsters got "Open Channel D" or "Climb Mount Niitaka" without resorting to Google . . .
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2021, 07:47:35 PM »
Quote from: HankB on July 10, 2021, 12:04:43 AM
Sounds like there's potential to have a lot of fun with an "encrypted" phone you know - know! - is being monitored.

Sounds to me like that would have the same consequences as joking about boombs in an aerodrome or some other things.  "Just for fun" doesn't go as far as it used to.

  :tinfoil: The misspelling was deliberate.  :cool:

I seem to rek'lect when it was illegal for the U.S. government to spy on U.S. citizens so the U.S. enlisted Great Britain to do the actual spying and report back to the U.S.

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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2021, 11:23:37 PM »
Quote from: HankB on July 10, 2021, 07:39:27 PM
John is against the wall?

Wonder how many of this forum's youngsters got "Open Channel D" or "Climb Mount Niitaka" without resorting to Google . . .
I am sure I have come across that in a past movie or documentary, but it wasn't a detail that ever stood out.
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2021, 11:34:56 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 10, 2021, 11:23:37 PM
I am sure I have come across that in a past movie or documentary, but it wasn't a detail that ever stood out.

Well, for other readers of the forum, the thing is, it's been repeated a lot on this board, especially around June 6, D-day, but it has spread to anytime coding or secrecy is involved.

It refers to the coded messages the BBC was sending to the French underground.  "John (Jean) has a long moustache" was one of the phrases and "The chair is against the wall" was another.  The movie was "The Longest Day."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Longest_Day_(film)

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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2021, 11:39:51 PM »
I was talking about "Climb Mount Niitaka". 

The others sounded like some variation of Red Dawn quotes.   =)
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2021, 11:43:37 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 10, 2021, 11:39:51 PM
I was talking about "Climb Mount Niitaka". 


Coded message sent to the Kido Butai (Japanese 1st air fleet) to proceed with the Pearl Harbor attack. And no I did not need to look that up.
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2021, 11:46:51 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 11:43:37 PM
Coded message sent to the Kido Butai (Japanese 1st air fleet) to proceed with the Pearl Harbor attack. And no I did not need to look that up.
I already looked it up.  I didn't want to spoil everyone else's fun.   =)
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2021, 11:59:49 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 10, 2021, 11:46:51 PM
I already looked it up.  I didn't want to spoil everyone else's fun.   =)

I figure anyone who didn't know and wanted to already looked it up.

How about a little related trivia? Included with the message was the date the PH attack was to occur on, what was the date in the message?
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2021, 02:08:07 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 11:59:49 PM
I figure anyone who didn't know and wanted to already looked it up.

How about a little related trivia? Included with the message was the date the PH attack was to occur on, what was the date in the message?

I know the answer but, like Stringfellow Hawke's pilot buddy in Airwolf, I ain't sayin'."
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Re: The FBI Encrypted Phone Store
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2021, 08:19:46 AM »
Got all the references.  I guess that makes me an "Olde Pharte".
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2021, 10:08:51 AM »
In the spirit of fairplay/not looking it up,  what was "Open Channel D"?

 Got the rest because I'm an old movie/history channel nerd.
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2021, 10:39:39 AM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 10, 2021, 11:46:51 PM
I already looked it up.  I didn't want to spoil everyone else's fun.   =)

Oh, was tht supposed to be one of those "I know something you don't know" seekrits?  Sorry.  Loose keyboards sink ships. 

D'ja get that one?  Huh?  Huh?  D'ja get it? <elbow dig> <elbow dig>

I didn't get the Channel D one, had to look it up.  I did not like that show, so didn't watch it enough to catch that one.

Sorry to spoil everyone's fun.  Now you know why I don't get invited to parties.

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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2021, 10:42:24 AM »
Sorry
Edit: For spoiling the Climb Mount Niitaka bit
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2021, 10:58:11 AM »
Quote from: WLJ on July 11, 2021, 10:42:24 AM
Sorry

Yeah.  LIked your cat remark.  All the FBI gets lately from my phone with Son2 is conversation about the 6.5 Creedmoor rifle he is building.

He was surprised to learn what Creedmoor meant and that I actually worked at Creedmoor State Hospital in 1963, which is what it ultimately became after they closed down the shooting range due to increasing population density out there on Long Island.

Claim to fame:  It was only a bus ride for me to get to Creedmoor Hospital, where the National Matches used to be held. <pats own back>

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