US attack sub has a collision today

[MillCreek]

https://news.usni.org/2021/10/07/breaking-attack-submarine-uss-connecticut-suffers-underwater-in-pacific?fbclid=IwAR1xYRcQ_-ehnbgjWz2fkZEPp54H-BrDLDCbcEyGje0za5nllp21IqkL_mE

It struck an 'underwater object'.  A seamount? A Chinese or Russian submarine? A whale?  I wonder if we will hear more about this.

[dogmush]

Some of the submariners on here might chime in, but I would think that they have good enough charts that hitting the bottom is not all that likely.

I bet it's either a big animal, another sub (like the various Soviet/US bumps), or the first Kaiju from the Pacific Rim rift.

[MillCreek]

^^^I am reminded of the US sub that struck the uncharted underwater seamount a few years back: the USS San Francisco back in 2005.

[BobR]

^^^I am reminded of the US sub that struck the uncharted underwater seamount a few years back: the USS San Francisco back in 2005.

I had a good friend that was standing Diving Officer Watch when that happened. Those guys did an excellent job of saving that boat and all the USN wanted to do was hang them out to dry. Moving in excess of reported speed to zero knots in the blink of an eye.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/submarine-runs-into-undersea-mountain/

Don't believe everything you read in that article. The heroics, yes, the death, yes, the injuries, yes. Take the rest with a grain of salt.

bob

[MechAg94]

This sub was in the South China Sea.  Wonder if they hit another sub or something else that wasn't supposed to be there.

[just Warren]

You'd think they'd have someone looking out the windows to avoid this sort of thing.

[HankB]

You'd think they'd have someone looking out the windows to avoid this sort of thing.

The great-great-grandsons of the Titanic lookouts?

[Fly320s]

You'd think they'd have someone looking out the windows to avoid this sort of thing.

They did, but it is dark down there and the headlights were off.

[MillCreek]

I had a good friend that was standing Diving Officer Watch when that happened. Those guys did an excellent job of saving that boat and all the USN wanted to do was hang them out to dry. Moving in excess of reported speed to zero knots in the blink of an eye.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/submarine-runs-into-undersea-mountain/

Don't believe everything you read in that article. The heroics, yes, the death, yes, the injuries, yes. Take the rest with a grain of salt.

bob

After reading the article and seeing the number of casualties, I bet the IDC on board was busy.

[Ron]

They did, but it is dark down there and the headlights were off.

The Seaview is still in service?!

[230RN]

https://www.nsc.org/safety-training/defensive-driving/courses/online

Of course, it's always the other driver's fault.

Or the car itself, as in "My car slid off the road and into the ditch."

[WLJ]

The Seaview is still in service?!

Yep, and it was the monster-of-the-week's fault
But which one?

1) Lobsterman
2) Crabman
3) Seaweedman
4) Space Seaweedman
5) Sharkman
6) Smells like fish Man

[MillCreek]

^^^And would Kowalski be striking the monster with a wrench?

[WLJ]

^^^And would Kowalski be striking the monster with a wrench?

Of course
But only after the Chief shoots it with a 1911 20 times to no effect

[RoadKingLarry]

Not enough information yet.  Could be nearly anything from an uncharted sea mount as was the case with the San Francisco to another submarine.  Even a very slowly sinking shipping container lost off a cargo ship that has achieved near neutral buoyancy is within the realm of possibility.

That the statement made a point of stating that the ship was operating in international waters may be telling.
Knowing a little better where the boat was operating would also help fuel the  wild ass guessing  .

[MillCreek]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42851/this-is-our-first-look-at-the-uss-connecticut-after-its-underwater-collision?fbclid=IwAR28clcaqkKVqQzFbsssPhfegMDfdpZ3OIV8PnEufZQyVIhnNu3w6YT13C0

At least it does not look as if the entire bow was crunched.

[just Warren]

Is this sub optimal?

[MillCreek]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2021/11/03/navy-faces-prospect-that-sub-crash-will-force-uss-connecticut-out-of-service/?sh=73f6146c4f3c&fbclid=IwAR1Z9V2Ssm9RflrbZiOAGjulGlhEbXjUob1gmbB443LhbzjWTrapXmc3nTs

Things are looking worse for the Navy.  It may not be feasible to repair the sub due to cost and shipyard constraints.

[Fly320s]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2021/11/03/navy-faces-prospect-that-sub-crash-will-force-uss-connecticut-out-of-service/?sh=73f6146c4f3c&fbclid=IwAR1Z9V2Ssm9RflrbZiOAGjulGlhEbXjUob1gmbB443LhbzjWTrapXmc3nTs

Things are looking worse for the Navy.  It may not be feasible to repair the sub due to cost and shipyard constraints.

If their insurance totals the sub, can we buy it as salvage?

[MechAg94]

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-fires-uss-connecticut-leaders-underwater-collision/?utm_source=Task+%26+Purpose+Today&utm_campaign=a6c5217578-TP_Today_11_05_2021&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_67edd998fe-a6c5217578-80255874
Navy fires leaders of USS Connecticut following submarine crash into undersea mountain

The captain, executive officer, and chief of the boat of the Seawolf-class attack submarine USS Connecticut have all been fired following an Oct. 2 incident in which the boat struck an underwater mountain in the South China Sea, the Navy announced on Thursday.

Vice Adm. Karl Thomas, commander of 7th Fleet, relieved Cmdr. Cameron Aljilani, Lt. Cmdr. Patrick Cashin, and Master Chief Sonar Technician Cory Rodgers on Thursday “due to a loss of confidence,” a Navy news release says.

“Thomas determined sound judgement, prudent decision-making and adherence to required procedures in navigation planning, watch team execution and risk management could have prevented the incident.”

One of only three Seawolf-class boats, the Connecticut cost about $3.1 billion to build. Eleven members of the submarine’s crew were injured in the Oct. 2 collision.

[Fly320s]

Is no one mapping the sea floor these days?

[cordex]

Is no one mapping the sea floor these days?

Of course we are, we are just using very expensive probes to do it.

[RocketMan]

Is no one mapping the sea floor these days?

I've read that our ocean floor maps are badly out of date and have been for some time.  Supposedly, the Navy knows this and yet has not made any real effort to rectify the situation.  Relieving the CO, XO and senior enlisted personnel of the boat is a way of covering up the senior leadership's role in debacles such as this.
The boat may have well been on an intelligence gathering mission in the SCS.  They would have been a situation where they could not use sensor systems that normally would have allowed them to detect an uncharted seamount before a collision.  Using those sensor systems could have revealed their location to a potential enemy (China).
Maybe some of our experienced former sub drivers can weigh in on this and provide better information than I can.

[RoadKingLarry]

Anyone that believes that story, I can sell you some ocean front property in Oklahoma.

[zxcvbob]

Anyone that believes that story, I can sell you some ocean front property in Oklahoma.

There actually are seaports in OK. :)  Riverfront tho', not ocean front.