Author Topic: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident  (Read 21378 times)

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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Incident
« Reply #525 on: January 20, 2023, 11:13:13 PM »
The opinion pieces in the news today are falling all over themselves excusing Baldwin.  Nobody seems to give a *expletive deleted*it about the overworked armorer/propmaster (those are separate jobs and she was covering both)   :mad:  I suspect she's the only one who will really be punished.

Not just the opinion pieces in the news. This case is being discussed on gun forums, and I am extremely disappointed to see that there are actually purportedly pro-gun pro-2A people defending Baldwin.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #526 on: January 21, 2023, 07:25:11 AM »
Not just the opinion pieces in the news. This case is being discussed on gun forums, and I am extremely disappointed to see that there are actually purportedly pro-gun pro-2A people defending Baldwin.

It’s amazing to see the handwavium of people who get pissed off about pointing a blue gun at somebody totally excuse pointing a real gun at somebody and basically horse playing with it.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #527 on: January 21, 2023, 09:01:45 AM »
Baldwin isn't solely responsible, but aside from being the triggerman, he was also the film's producer, so having a safe set IS his responsibility. 

He failed, and - in today's vernacular - he has to be held accountable. And that means he should face criminal as well as civil charges in court.

IMHO the person who brought live ammo onto a movie set with real guns bears most of the responsibility.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #528 on: January 21, 2023, 05:14:23 PM »
I think I heard someone say Balwin had live ammo on his person, but I haven't seen myself.  Anyone else heard something like that?
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #529 on: January 21, 2023, 06:21:57 PM »
I think I heard someone say Balwin had live ammo on his person, but I haven't seen myself.  Anyone else heard something like that?

I haven't heard that before. Baldwin hates guns (but not enough to eschew using them to make money from taking roles that use guns). I can't imagine any reason why he would have had live ammo in his pocket.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #530 on: January 21, 2023, 06:35:50 PM »
I haven't heard that before. Baldwin hates guns (but not enough to eschew using them to make money from taking roles that use guns). I can't imagine any reason why he would have had live ammo in his pocket.
Thanks.  They may have been referring to someone else, but I will discount it.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #531 on: January 21, 2023, 07:32:41 PM »
I think I heard someone say Balwin had live ammo on his person, but I haven't seen myself.  Anyone else heard something like that?

The prosecutor's press release said that one of the extra live rounds that were found on set was found in the loops on Baldwin's pistol belt.

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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #532 on: January 21, 2023, 08:05:58 PM »
The prosecutor's press release said that one of the extra live rounds that were found on set was found in the loops on Baldwin's pistol belt.

If true, that's pretty bad.  Having dummies and live rounds randomly mixed up on the set is just like Russian Roulette, except the victims don't know they are playing.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #533 on: January 21, 2023, 09:02:12 PM »
I saw that on a TimCastIRL clip so I can't easily link it, but it said the sheriff found five more live rounds. One in Baldwin's belt, one in a bandoleer worn by Jenson Ackles,  one in a box of otherwise dummy rounds, and two loose on a prop cart.

So yeah, Russian roulette is a good description.

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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #534 on: January 21, 2023, 09:04:03 PM »
5 out of 6 people say Russian Roulette is perfectly safe.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #535 on: January 21, 2023, 09:07:37 PM »

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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #536 on: January 22, 2023, 04:23:27 PM »
I saw that on a TimCastIRL clip so I can't easily link it, but it said the sheriff found five more live rounds. One in Baldwin's belt, one in a bandoleer worn by Jenson Ackles,  one in a box of otherwise dummy rounds, and two loose on a prop cart.

So yeah, Russian roulette is a good description.

Hollywood ( imagine the worst expletives ever ) do not know the difference between a blank and a live round plus
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #537 on: January 22, 2023, 11:08:14 PM »
I would just like everyone to know that I stand behind Alec Baldwin. 
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(certainly not in front of him)   =)
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