Author Topic: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident (Read 42471 times)

WLJ · « **Reply #275 on:** November 08, 2021, 06:42:25 PM »

Quote from: Ben on November 08, 2021, 01:28:04 PM

This should solve the problem:

But, but, defund the police.

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #276 on:** November 08, 2021, 08:59:01 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on November 08, 2021, 06:27:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbBoHj9R0Lc
Apparently over the weekend, some were claiming sabotage by disgruntled people who left the set. Mr H points out that if the armorer was doing her job, that would not have mattered.

Yeah, she's kinda screwed. The only defense she may have is if Production directed her to not be present on set due to misguided COVID precautions.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #277 on:** November 08, 2021, 09:18:34 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on November 08, 2021, 08:59:01 PM

Yeah, she's kinda screwed. The only defense she may have is if Production directed her to not be present on set due to misguided COVID precautions.

To be honest, I think she should be held accountable as far as liability on the tort side. She didn't point the gun at anyone. I don't even know if she was there when the shot was fired. She just sucks at her job. I don't know where her liability ends on the criminal side.

That said, this is a real murky situation on the criminal side. I am not even sure what would happen if this just occurred at someone's BBQ. I bet there is precedent. Just because someone hands you a gun and tells you it is unloaded, does that mean you should immediately aim at someone and pull the trigger? There are probably similar "gun store" stories.

230RN · « **Reply #278 on:** November 10, 2021, 09:26:51 AM »

^
That's why I said in Reply # 243:

"I trust she has at least some of this in writing. There's nothing like keeping a "Pearl Harbor File." Or having witnesses to the objections.

I still, personally, lay 99 point four more nines percent of the blame on the party who cocked the gun, allowed it to be pointed at a person, and pulled the trigger.

I suspect that ammunition can actually tiptoe around, hiding in small dark places, until it finds a suitable chamber to slip into and rest until awakened.

And I've often said you never point a gun anywhere you can't fix the hole."

Terry, 230RN

MechAg94 · « **Reply #279 on:** November 10, 2021, 10:14:58 AM »

I was thinking there were also "gun show" stories of someone slipping live ammo into display guns, but I don't remember if those were real or just stories.

WLJ · « **Reply #280 on:** November 10, 2021, 10:57:47 AM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on November 10, 2021, 10:14:58 AM

I was thinking there were also "gun show" stories of someone slipping live ammo into display guns, but I don't remember if those were real or just stories.

Was at a gun show where one went off and I remember hearing those stories too. Sometimes I wonder if there is any truth to those stories but also wonder if most if not all similar incidences were the result of dealer error and the dealer spun those stories to cover their a.

230RN · « **Reply #281 on:** November 10, 2021, 11:08:18 AM »

Oh, the "red herring" and "false flag" concepts WRT planted live ammo have probably been floating around in the backs of peoples' minds since the start.

Trouble is, crap like that is (a) hard to prove and (b) cited as "paranoia," sometimes by the perpetrators themselves.

That last (b) usually shuts down discussion about ulterior motives since nobody wants to be called paranoid.

Well, I always figured two "negative" things were actual survival traits: Paranoia and Xenophobia.

WLJ · « **Reply #282 on:** November 15, 2021, 03:09:49 PM »

Enter Very Very Special Agent Richard Beazit

ATF tries to help Alec Baldwin avoid murder charges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Q3lheohiA

RocketMan · « **Reply #283 on:** November 18, 2021, 10:44:01 AM »

A second crew member has filed suit against Alec Baldwin, claiming he was negligent. The crew member claims no shots were to be fired in the scene they were preparing to film inside the church set. If true, that would seem to indicate that Baldwin was just screwing around with the gun when he killed Halyna Hutchins.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/11/17/2nd-rust-crew-member-sues-alec-baldwin-he-did-not-check-the-gun-himself-no-firing-in-upcoming-scene/

Fly320s · « **Reply #284 on:** November 18, 2021, 08:44:06 PM »

Why is she suing? What is her standing? Was she harmed when Baldwin shot? Or is she suing because the filming was stopped?

The answer to all those questions, and more, is money. She just wants money.

RocketMan · « **Reply #285 on:** November 18, 2021, 08:45:49 PM »

Quote from: Fly320s on November 18, 2021, 08:44:06 PM

Why is she suing? What is her standing? Was she harmed when Baldwin shot? Or is she suing because the filming was stopped?

The answer to all those questions, and more, is money. She just wants money.

Probably something along the lines of her contracting PTSD from someone else using a firearm. Mental anguish, hurt feelings, whatever.
I suspect you are right that she is just hoping to cash in on Baldwin's stupidity.

230RN · « **Reply #286 on:** November 19, 2021, 11:51:47 AM »

Quote from: RocketMan on November 18, 2021, 08:45:49 PM

Probably something along the lines of her contracting PTSD from someone else using a firearm. Mental anguish, hurt feelings, whatever.
I suspect you are right that she is just hoping to cash in on Baldwin's stupidity.

I wouldn't mind hearing about a bevy of suits against the trigger-puller on this basis from everyone involved.

As I said, he cocked the gun, he pointed it at a person, he pulled the trigger, he put holes in two people.

Who cocked the gun, who pointed it at a person, who pulled the trigger, who put holes in two people?

Alec Baldwin.

That's who.

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #287 on:** November 19, 2021, 12:13:32 PM »

Quote from: Fly320s on November 18, 2021, 08:44:06 PM

Why is she suing? What is her standing? Was she harmed when Baldwin shot? Or is she suing because the filming was stopped?

The answer to all those questions, and more, is money. She just wants money.

Sometimes whomever sues first, is protection against liability later.

She probably wrote the scene and could see Baldwin coming after her for "forcing him" to be in a situation where he has to shoot a gun at a manned camera.

Bogie · « **Reply #288 on:** November 19, 2021, 12:14:49 PM »

Tales from the Table...

Why does it seem like many "non-gun" people, when handed a firearm, immediately point it at someone and quite often pull the trigger?

"No, you can't pick up that rifle yet - Why do you want to see it?"

230RN · « **Reply #289 on:** November 19, 2021, 12:26:25 PM »

Quote from: Bogie on November 19, 2021, 12:14:49 PM

Tales from the Table...

Why does it seem like many "non-gun" people, when handed a firearm, immediately point it at someone and quite often pull the trigger?

"No, you can't pick up that rifle yet - Why do you want to see it?"

It seems that way?

zxcvbob · « **Reply #290 on:** November 19, 2021, 02:26:22 PM »

Quote from: Fly320s on November 18, 2021, 08:44:06 PM

Why is she suing? What is her standing? Was she harmed when Baldwin shot? Or is she suing because the filming was stopped?

The answer to all those questions, and more, is money. She just wants money.

The simplest answer is she just wants money. But her standing IMHO is his unsafe gun handling both as the shooter, and as the producer who had an unsafe set, endangered everyone there. Also PTSD from seeing a coworker killed.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #291 on:** November 19, 2021, 10:07:28 PM »

Quote from: Bogie on November 19, 2021, 12:14:49 PM

Tales from the Table...

Why does it seem like many "non-gun" people, when handed a firearm, immediately point it at someone and quite often pull the trigger?

"No, you can't pick up that rifle yet - Why do you want to see it?"

JTHunter · « **Reply #292 on:** November 19, 2021, 10:26:25 PM »

Perd - where are the sights on that gun??

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #293 on:** November 19, 2021, 10:29:32 PM »

Quote from: JTHunter on November 19, 2021, 10:26:25 PM

Perd - where are the sights on that gun??

The jury was pretty close, so he didn't need any.

Fly320s · « **Reply #294 on:** November 20, 2021, 08:54:40 AM »

Quote from: JTHunter on November 19, 2021, 10:26:25 PM

Perd - where are the sights on that gun??

Someone said the optic wouldn't fit in the evidence box, so it was taken off. It is probably on some cop's rifle now.

WLJ · « **Reply #295 on:** November 20, 2021, 09:02:50 AM »

Yeah, it had what appeared to be a Sightmark red dot on it when Rittenhouse had it.

gunsmith · « **Reply #296 on:** November 20, 2021, 09:08:20 AM »

Quote from: Bogie on November 19, 2021, 12:14:49 PM

Tales from the Table...

Why does it seem like many "non-gun" people, when handed a firearm, immediately point it at someone and quite often pull the trigger?

"No, you can't pick up that rifle yet - Why do you want to see it?"

SO TRUE!!!
Hopefully this will be used in court, some kids out there will be safer if the "alecs and tv liberals" are forced to confront this!

Ben · « **Reply #297 on:** December 01, 2021, 05:08:21 PM »

"The trigger wasn't pulled."

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/12/01/alec-baldwin-tells-george-stephanopoulos-that-not-only-didnt-he-pull-the-trigger-the-trigger-wasnt-pulled/

Jim147 · « **Reply #298 on:** December 01, 2021, 05:11:55 PM »

A red SUV did it.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #299 on:** December 01, 2021, 05:16:57 PM »

If the hammer was cocked back, it doesn't take much pressure on the trigger.

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Author Topic: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident (Read 42471 times)