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Poland at loggerheads with the EU...
K Frame:
What still amazes me is that the EU, which has no formal Constitution, is telling the Poles to essentially jettison their Constitution.
The EU states that they have a Constitutional Charter (Lisbon Treaty), which is sort of, maybe, kind of, could be equivalent to a formal Constitution, but maybe, sort of, kind of, not.
The EU has tried to craft a formal Constitution, but each time they've tried the process has collapsed under its own weight.
The US Constitution is what, 4 hand written pages?
Last draft of the European Constitution was, IIRC, something like 3,900 pages long and it still wasn't considered to be complete.
The Treaty of Lisbon, however, took care of any further attempts at a full Constitution by formally rejecting one.
HankB:
Interesting how the linked story in the OP says nothing about WHAT the actual conflicting rulings dealt with.
charby:
I've been to Poland, the people don't like being controlled by someone else. Too many recent years of Soviet, NAZI and German control.
dogmush:
--- Quote from: HankB on October 27, 2021, 10:33:47 AM ---Interesting how the linked story in the OP says nothing about WHAT the actual conflicting rulings dealt with.
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It appears to be about how Poland appoints and holds accountable their judiciary.
https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/eu-court-orders-poland-to-suspend-supreme-court-disciplinary-chamber-23308
--- Quote ---The ruling follows the European Commission's decision in October 2019 to take Poland to the CJEU. The Commission argued that a Disciplinary Chamber under the Polish Supreme Court, set up in 2017 by the ruling coalition to take disciplinary measures against judges, violated judicial independence in that it could have a "chilling effect" on judges, and thus ran against EU law.
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Here's some AP drivel on the arguments over EU law vs. National constitution. It also deals with Poland's Judiciary:
https://apnews.com/article/european-union-poland-europe-courts-1175aa5efa731c9cac6189443eee3f9c
K Frame:
--- Quote from: HankB on October 27, 2021, 10:33:47 AM ---Interesting how the linked story in the OP says nothing about WHAT the actual conflicting rulings dealt with.
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Yeah, I was surprised that they didn't have links in the article to the other articles that they've run on this situation. Easy to find on google, though.
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