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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #100 on: June 01, 2023, 11:20:38 AM »
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #101 on: June 01, 2023, 12:22:08 PM »
I certainly DO NOT condone or tolerate kiddie p0rn producers or consumers I am sometimes a little skeptical when the government "discovers" child p0rn on a device belonging to an enemy of the "current administration".
Most of those that are guilty of child p0rn charges just need to be duly tried, properly convicted and then taken out back and shot.

The skeptical issue comes up when you realize just how damaging just an accusation of child p0rn can be against someone. Nobody, not friends or even family will be willing to stand up for the accused. It will totally destroy their support base.
This was pre-Trump, but I recall an interview maybe 15 years ago by someone who was "under investigation" because they were in opposition to the Clinton's (I think).  They got a specialist to do a detailed check on their computer.  The guy found a file buried in a Windows subdirectory that would be hard for a typical computer user to find.  Apparently the file was some sort of child porn content.  They didn't know how it got there.  They suspected someone got access and planted it at some point.  Unfortunately, I don't remember who it was. 

IMO, I think it is a healthy thing to question charges like this at least to verify the scope of what was actually done/found;  and don't trust vague hand waving answers. 
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #102 on: June 04, 2023, 09:36:00 AM »

Years ago there was a story about some agency investigating either an elected official or some high level political appointee for bribery. The agency offered him a bribe, he accepted, and agents burst into his office to arrest him for taking a bribe.

Whereupon agents from ANOTHER agency burst in to arrest THEM for bribing the person in question - who was wearing a wire, having contacted this other law enforcement agency of the pending bribe attempt.

Much hilarity ensued. (IIRC, they even had a skit on a TV comedy show which was inspired by this story.)

The point being that so many different agencies are doing so many undercover investigations that it's beginning to look like a Keystone Kops type of thing. And you start to wonder how many offenses are genuine and how many originate with agent provocateurs.
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #103 on: June 25, 2023, 11:20:29 AM »
I ran across this video on Twitter this morning.  I don't know if it's in DC, or elsewhere (One of the shirts seems to say Portland)  But Patriot Front apparently wandered up to a conservative demonstration thinking they'd be friends, and were immediately driven off with flags, cries of "Begone, Bitch" and violence that culminated in several PF folks having their masks ripped off and them running away in terror of having their faces filmed.

All in all a great film.  Pop some popcorn:

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1672981094902185986?s=20

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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #104 on: June 25, 2023, 11:25:34 AM »
I ran across this video on Twitter this morning.  I don't know if it's in DC, or elsewhere (One of the shirts seems to say Portland)  But Patriot Front apparently wandered up to a conservative demonstration thinking they'd be friends, and were immediately driven off with flags, cries of "Begone, Bitch" and violence that culminated in several PF folks having their masks ripped off and them running away in terror of having their faces filmed.

All in all a great film.  Pop some popcorn:

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1672981094902185986?s=20

My guess is DC since IIRC that seems to be the only place we see them. Gee I wonder why?

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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #105 on: June 25, 2023, 12:12:00 PM »
My guess is DC since IIRC that seems to be the only place we see them. Gee I wonder why?
They don’t have the budget for travel pay?

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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2023, 07:47:51 AM »
Even Adam Kinzinger has admitted that they are undercover feds.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

https://twitchy.com/gordon-kushner/2023/06/25/adam-kinzinger-seems-to-really-heart-fascism-n2384822
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #107 on: June 26, 2023, 01:10:18 PM »
Even Adam Kinzinger has admitted that they are undercover feds.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

https://twitchy.com/gordon-kushner/2023/06/25/adam-kinzinger-seems-to-really-heart-fascism-n2384822
I don't think he intended to say they were Feds, but it is funny nonetheless. 
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2023, 02:11:33 PM »
I don't think he intended to say they were Feds, but it is funny nonetheless.

I'm really not seeing it. It as in where did he said they were feds?
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2023, 02:34:41 PM »
I'm really not seeing it. It as in where did he said they were feds?

Quote from: Kinzinger's Tweet
These people (all blue checks) are celebrating a seemingly MAGA assault on federal officers. Now i don’t know what this really is, but take a gander at the comments of the “patriots” who “love” America

I guess it's more accurate to say he said they are seemingly Feds.

In my mind it's more of an own to point out that he equated "loving America" and being "Patriotic" with blind support of federal law enforcement even if they were dressing up as Neo-Nazi's.  He's using scare quotes to imply that you can't say you love America if you aren't behind anything the Feds do.  Including, one supposes, internment camps.

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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #110 on: June 26, 2023, 02:39:57 PM »
I guess it's more accurate to say he said they are seemingly Feds.

Yeah, he's probably commenting based on everyone else commenting about the running joke (or not) that patriot front is full of fed stooges.
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #111 on: June 26, 2023, 03:44:00 PM »
Wait a minute... the neo nazi group were the feds?

Adam Kinzinger enters 'desperation mode' after tweeting about neo-Nazis at Proud Boys event being feds
https://twitchy.com/sarahd/2023/06/26/kinzinger-nazis-n2384834

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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #112 on: June 26, 2023, 04:47:59 PM »
Wait a minute... the neo nazi group were the feds?

Adam Kinzinger enters 'desperation mode' after tweeting about neo-Nazis at Proud Boys event being feds
https://twitchy.com/sarahd/2023/06/26/kinzinger-nazis-n2384834


Yes. (maybe)  There's a running internet joke (theory?) that the Patriot Front; the guys with masks, khakis, and navy blue tops that film themselves "sieg heil"-ing everywhere, are mostly or totally a federal organization.  The proponents of this theory point out that they are offly choreographed, unusually fit for a bunch of white supremacist's, and often get perplexingly soft or favorable treatment by law enforcement.  On that last one, they were allowed to walk through DC protected by DC Metro cops, then when they went into the Metro the station was closed off by law enforcement so no press could watch them change out of their uniforms and scatter.  When a bunch were arrested out by Ben's house last year they were pulled out of a truck and flexi-cuffed suspiciously loosely, and allowed to keep their masks on while under arrest, behavior that a bunch of law enforcement has called out as very unusual.  Stuff like that.

Whether they are completely .gov run controlled opposition to paint a narrative, or simply stooges being egged on by feds [again] it's almost certain that a good number of that group are either straight up Law Enforcement, or at least CI's for various agencies.

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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #113 on: June 26, 2023, 06:00:49 PM »
. . . Whether they are completely .gov run controlled opposition to paint a narrative, or simply stooges being egged on by feds [again] it's almost certain that a good number of that group are either straight up Law Enforcement, or at least CI's for various agencies.
This is completely plausible. After the OKC bombing there was a concerted effort to tie the event to "militia" groups, especially one in Michigan. The legacy media didn't like it at all that the OKC bomber had been rejected by the Michigan militia when he tried to join, since they considered him a nut. About a year or two later when a militia member was being interviewed, he said membership was up - and that MOST OF THE PEOPLE JOINING WERE FEDS! From multiple agencies.

So people began asking the question, "How many Feds have to join an organization before it can be considered a government agency?"   :rofl:
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #114 on: June 26, 2023, 08:14:46 PM »
You guys weren't issued your shields, khakis, blue shirts, and face masks by your local Republican Party group, church, gun club, or gay-bashing club? Being active in all 4, I got multiple sets! (Don't tell them that.)
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #115 on: January 20, 2024, 04:08:23 PM »
Guess who

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    #BREAKING: A group called the Patriot Front are currently marching down at the World Trade Center

    📌#Manhattan l #NewYork

    Currently, approximately 90-150 individuals identified as the "Patriot Front" and recognized as a right-wing organization are advancing towards the 9/11 World Trade Center located in downtown Manhattan in New York City. Numerous sightings have been reported from the subways into the Oculus Mall, and now towards the 9/11 World Trade Center, New York City police officers are currently keeping an eye out while escorting them as they work to maintain a separation between any counter-protesters or any other individuals.
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/01/20/far-right-patriot-front-marches-through-manhattan-n2391971

The FBI must be bored

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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #116 on: January 20, 2024, 05:17:21 PM »
I wonder if O'Keefe has tried to get in with those guys.
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #117 on: January 20, 2024, 05:28:45 PM »
This "anti-Zion" thing is new, isn't it? I don't recall them doing the white supremacy / KKK thing before. They're still knuckleheads whether the real deal, the real deal full of FBI informants, or whether an FBI front, but to suddenly now go anti-Jew seems a little fishy.
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #118 on: January 20, 2024, 05:32:40 PM »
This "anti-Zion" thing is new, isn't it? I don't recall them doing the white supremacy / KKK thing before. They're still knuckleheads whether the real deal, the real deal full of FBI informants, or whether an FBI front, but to suddenly now go anti-Jew seems a little fishy.

Anti-Jooish sentiment on the Left has gotten a little out of hand these days. They need to remind us it's really the right-wing maga-maga scaries that really hate the Joos.
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #119 on: January 20, 2024, 09:42:27 PM »
The odd thing to me about Patriot Front is it seems too obvious as a set up.  All I can figure is someone thinks it looks good on the network news.  Might also mean some agency has too much money to spend. 

Might also be another sign that the current generation of New World Order elites are arrogant and somewhat stupid. 
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #120 on: January 20, 2024, 10:23:30 PM »
You guys weren't issued your shields, khakis, blue shirts, and face masks by your local Republican Party group, church, gun club, or gay-bashing club? Being active in all 4, I got multiple sets! (Don't tell them that.)

Don't get them mixed up, as in an Organization A mask with an Organization B blue shirt, or they'll think you're an actual Honest-To-G-d dedicated member of the target organization and you'll be detained for real.

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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #121 on: January 20, 2024, 11:07:06 PM »
Don't get them mixed up, as in an Organization A mask with an Organization B blue shirt, or they'll think you're an actual Honest-To-G-d dedicated member of the target organization and you'll be detained for real.

That's the beauty of the Patriot Guard. All of the uniforms are - ya know - uniform. So we get to LARP as MAGAfundyNazis, but we have the same big-time funding and organization as all the other Left-wing goons.
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #122 on: January 21, 2024, 01:44:00 PM »
If they were real every democrat and journalist, sorry to repeat myself, would be all over them trying to ID them and get them fired from their jobs.
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Re: Patriot Front Marching in DC
« Reply #124 on: January 23, 2024, 08:56:22 AM »
The odd thing to me about Patriot Front is it seems too obvious as a set up.  All I can figure is someone thinks it looks good on the network news.  Might also mean some agency has too much money to spend. 

Might also be another sign that the current generation of New World Order elites are arrogant and somewhat stupid.

In the video above, she says they only show up in blue cities. I don't know if that's true, but it would make sense if their purpose was merely to make all the talk about scary white nationalism seem like a real threat.
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