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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #775 on: December 02, 2022, 09:54:36 AM »
Between a rock and a hard place

The left: You must ban people for inciting violence!
Also the left: You can't ban people!

Kanye West suspended after tweeting swastika symbol and people push Elon Musk on free speech
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/12/02/kanye-west-suspended-after-tweeting-swastika-symbol-and-people-push-elon-musk-on-free-speech/

BTW: WTF is going on with Kanye West?
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #776 on: December 02, 2022, 10:08:32 AM »
BTW: WTF is going on with Kanye West?

Some dudes are just plain wired for whack.

As for Elon, I think he is finding that "operational" free speech is harder than theoretical free speech. I won't knock him on this, as he's still doing 1000% better than old twitter. I'll agree though, with a comment I read, that this might have been better handled from the "free speech" perspective with a warning label on the tweet, which would allow discussion.
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #777 on: December 02, 2022, 11:10:02 AM »
As for Elon, I think he is finding that "operational" free speech is harder than theoretical free speech.
It’s kind of a rite of passage for any new social media network. They show up, insist that they’re the “platform for free speech” without quite understanding what that actually means, and then they quickly discover a whole bunch of fairly fundamental ideas, institute a bunch of rapid (often sloppy) changes… and in the end, they basically all end up in the same general vicinity, with just a few small differences on the margin.

I would like to see Elon lay out his rules a bit more clearly. He talks big about free speech but kept the ban on Alex Jones and suspended Ye. Not that I care to see either of those buffoons in my "newsfeed" but it doesn't match up with his rhetoric.
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #778 on: December 02, 2022, 11:36:04 AM »
Maybe there should "ratings" on twitter accounts like movies (G, PG, PG-13, R) and you can change your account settings to the level of "adult content" you want to see. 

What do you think?

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #779 on: December 02, 2022, 03:19:37 PM »
Some dudes are just plain wired for whack.

As for Elon, I think he is finding that "operational" free speech is harder than theoretical free speech. I won't knock him on this, as he's still doing 1000% better than old twitter. I'll agree though, with a comment I read, that this might have been better handled from the "free speech" perspective with a warning label on the tweet, which would allow discussion.

Like the warning labels ewetwob slaps on anything not progressive narrative?  Labels are bad mmkay.  Modern jew stars.

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #780 on: December 02, 2022, 05:06:39 PM »
Musk said months ago that his Twitter would allow any speech that was legal in the subscriber's jurisdiction. While Jones' statements about Sandy Hook were not illegal, he did lose a lawsuit over it.
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #781 on: December 02, 2022, 07:41:04 PM »
Musk doing the data dump on twitter's role in the Hunter Biden coverup

 [popcorn]

Elon Musk (and Matt Taibbi) help explain ‘what really happened with the Hunter Biden story suppression’ (WOW)
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/12/02/elon-musk-explains-what-really-happened-with-the-hunter-biden-story-suppression-wow/
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #782 on: December 02, 2022, 08:55:22 PM »
Like the warning labels ewetwob slaps on anything not progressive narrative?  Labels are bad mmkay.  Modern jew stars.

No, like age ratings on movies.

Grandma may want a PG account.  Someone else might want an R rated account.

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #783 on: December 02, 2022, 09:01:27 PM »
Maybe there should "ratings" on twitter accounts like movies (G, PG, PG-13, R) and you can change your account settings to the level of "adult content" you want to see. 

What do you think?

I think the leftists and Hollywood elite would end up arguing about the rating on the child porn Twitter hosts[ed].  Can it really be more than PG13 if the actors are 13?

Elon had it right before the merger. If it's not illegal in the poster's jurisdiction,  let it ride and be derided. If it is, email it to law enforcement in that jurisdiction and move on with your life.

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #784 on: December 03, 2022, 07:35:29 AM »
Well, the "laptop suppression" stuff is beginning to drop, and man, the left is in full gaslighting mode.

If I'm reading things right, much of this suppression was done using the "deep state" methodology. It seems some of the previous executives at Twitter were kept out of the loop on the decisions.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/12/02/glenn-greenwalds-take-on-matt-taibbi-and-elon-musks-twitter-files-revelations-does-not-disappoint/
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/12/02/elon-musk-explains-what-really-happened-with-the-hunter-biden-story-suppression-wow/
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #785 on: December 03, 2022, 08:06:00 AM »
No, like age ratings on movies.

Grandma may want a PG account.  Someone else might want an R rated account.

And who applies the ratings?  The obvious abuse is nonprogressive politics all get marked NC-17 no matter what to minimize the people who see them.

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #787 on: December 03, 2022, 09:10:47 AM »
James Wood looking to sue DNC over them working with Twitter in getting him banned.  [popcorn]

James Woods vows to sue DNC over Twitter scandal in EPIC response on Tucker Carlson
https://twitchy.com/mikel-313136/2022/12/03/james-woods-vows-to-sue-dnc-over-twitter-scandal-in-epic-response-on-tucker-carlson/
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #788 on: December 03, 2022, 09:11:52 AM »

https://babylonbee.com/news/man-reads-tweet-he-disagrees-with-dies

Unfortunately in the real world they just whine about it to the point we wish they would sometimes.
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #789 on: December 03, 2022, 10:15:01 AM »
And who applies the ratings?  The obvious abuse is nonprogressive politics all get marked NC-17 no matter what to minimize the people who see them.

Good question.  I don't know what would be best.

The idea is reasonable though.  If you can rate movies for sex, violence and language levels surely twitter accounts could be the same.

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #790 on: December 03, 2022, 10:26:24 AM »
Good question.  I don't know what would be best.

The idea is reasonable though.  If you can rate movies for sex, violence and language levels surely twitter accounts could be the same.

The idea is fundamentally censorship and thus it can't be reasonable.  This is principle, not degree.

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #791 on: December 03, 2022, 12:20:22 PM »
Between a rock and a hard place

The left: You must ban people for inciting violence!
Also the left: You can't ban people!

Kanye West suspended after tweeting swastika symbol and people push Elon Musk on free speech
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/12/02/kanye-west-suspended-after-tweeting-swastika-symbol-and-people-push-elon-musk-on-free-speech/

BTW: WTF is going on with Kanye West?

West wants to run for president in 24, which in my book indicates questionable mental health and at least proves he's a glutton for punishment. Regardless of his mental health or the claims by Musk that he incited violence, the "star of David/swastika" symbol he tweeted is actually a Hindu symbol: https://www.hinduamerican.org/blog/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-swastika/. As the twitchy article indicates, we can't know what transpired between Musk and West (who goes by "Ye" now) so we have to take Elon's word for it. West has always seemed pretty unbalanced to me, all the media attention is bound to mess him up even more.
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #792 on: December 03, 2022, 01:27:28 PM »
So from what I'm seeing, the MSMs (yet again orchestrated) response to the release of the twitter/hunter biden files is that twitter did the right thing because otherwise they would be posting naked pictures of someone without their consent.

Okay, MSM. Run with that.
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #793 on: December 03, 2022, 04:15:14 PM »
West wants to run for president in 24, which in my book indicates questionable mental health and at least proves he's a glutton for punishment. Regardless of his mental health or the claims by Musk that he incited violence, the "star of David/swastika" symbol he tweeted is actually a Hindu symbol: https://www.hinduamerican.org/blog/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-swastika/. As the twitchy article indicates, we can't know what transpired between Musk and West (who goes by "Ye" now) so we have to take Elon's word for it. West has always seemed pretty unbalanced to me, all the media attention is bound to mess him up even more.

Did you miss the part where Hitler invented microphones?
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #794 on: December 03, 2022, 04:34:49 PM »
Did you miss the part where Hitler invented microphones?

I didn't see any of the tweets other than what was in the twitchy article. Just going on my internet search for "hitler invented microphones" which indicates West made that claim at some time, it doesn't sound like inciting violence to me. Making stupid statements isn't suspension worthy material in my view. Neither is being delusional.
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #795 on: December 03, 2022, 05:42:11 PM »
I didn't see any of the tweets other than what was in the twitchy article. Just going on my internet search for "hitler invented microphones" which indicates West made that claim at some time, it doesn't sound like inciting violence to me. Making stupid statements isn't suspension worthy material in my view. Neither is being delusional.

I was just addressing the question of "just how loopy is this guy?"  I haven't even looked into the question of why he was banned. Sorry.
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #796 on: December 03, 2022, 10:33:08 PM »
The idea is fundamentally censorship and thus it can't be reasonable.  This is principle, not degree.

It isn't censorship if people can freely decide what ratings they want to see.

That being said, it's just an idea, I don't really care.

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #797 on: December 04, 2022, 06:48:18 AM »
Fire off the ratings idea in an e-mail or response in one of his twitter threads.. From what I've seen he's quite open to ideas
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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #798 on: December 04, 2022, 12:42:43 PM »
Oh look at that.

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Re: Musk and Twitter
« Reply #799 on: December 05, 2022, 11:11:15 AM »
I'm very encouraged to be seeing this kind of stuff, and I'm just seeing it on twitchy. I bet there's a lot more of it on twitter and that lefty heads are exploding at the fairness of it all.

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