Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting

[WLJ]

https://nypost.com/2022/05/26/salvador-ramos-mightve-revealed-shooting-plan-reporttexas-shooter-may-have-revealed-sick-massacre-plan-in-video-game-rant-report/

Here's another link showing gamers reporting Ramos to the FBI for disturbing statements in video games.

EDIT:  Its a gamer reporting "someone."  There's a lot of supposition and assumption that the BadSpeaker was actually Ramos and not someone else.  No one has traced any usernames to accounts or sessions or IP addresses.

If true kind of hard to fault the FBI on that one.

[Ben]

If true kind of hard to fault the FBI on that one.

Yup. In another situation we might be discussing something like that as doxing or swating. Freedom and keeping big brother at bay require letting some bad actors slip through.

[T.O.M.]

Watching news right now.. looks like the media sharks are in a feeding frenzy over the LEO delay on entry/engaging the shooter.  It's amazing to me, watching this, that they almost seem to have lost sight of the bad guy, and are focusing on "holding these people accountable for making wrong choices."

[Perd Hapley]

If true kind of hard to fault the FBI on that one.

No, it isn't.

The FBI and other agencies should be made to announce a significant scaling back of their big brothering. As we've seen time and again, it's a whole lot of intrusion, and we still have all-too-frequent massacres.

[AZRedhawk44]

Watching news right now.. looks like the media sharks are in a feeding frenzy over the LEO delay on entry/engaging the shooter.  It's amazing to me, watching this, that they almost seem to have lost sight of the bad guy, and are focusing on "holding these people accountable for making wrong choices."

And they should be in a feeding frenzy over this.

There's been a WHOLE LOT of surrendering of liberty to all the authoritarian apologists.  And everything just keeps getting worse as a result.  It's a case of the blind squirrel finding an acorn, and I don't think they even realize what they're doing since MSM pretty much always operates from a position of Cognitive Dissonance, but the answers will be useful later.

[HankB]

It's easy to figure out why the FBI wasn't interested ahead of time.

The name "Salvador Ramos" doesn't sound typical for a White Supremacist.

[AZRedhawk44]

Some animals are more equal.

Off-duty Border Patrol officer enters Uvalde elementary school and evacuates his family rather than facing gunman.

In the meantime, Uvalde PD are arresting and detaining parents of other children wanting to do the same thing or confront the gunman.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/cbp-officer-jacob-albarado-runs-into-uvalde-school-with-barbers-shotgun-to-save-daughter/

EDIT TO ADD:  He took his barber's shotgun when he got the news in the barber's chair.

No 4473.  No background check on that private party firearms transfer.

[Ben]

Some animals are more equal.

Off-duty Border Patrol officer enters Uvalde elementary school and evacuates his family rather than facing gunman.

In the meantime, Uvalde PD are arresting and detaining parents of other children wanting to do the same thing or confront the gunman.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/cbp-officer-jacob-albarado-runs-into-uvalde-school-with-barbers-shotgun-to-save-daughter/

EDIT TO ADD:  He took his barber's shotgun when he got the news in the barber's chair.

No 4473.  No background check on that private party firearms transfer.

"I did what I was trained to do."

CBP trains their officers to just rescue their families? Interesting how the article hails him as a hero.

[WLJ]

    A Texas official now says that the door that the shooter used to enter the school was propped open by a teacher. pic.twitter.com/bYWvHIBXqB

    — Townhall.com (@townhallcom) May 27, 2022

and

    DPS Director McGraw confirms a school resource officer was not originally on campus before the shooting but could not explain why that was the case.

    — Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) May 27, 2022

and

    BREAKING: DPS says *19* officers were on scene when gunman was inside but officers thought they didn’t have enough resources.

    The officers treated it as a barricaded subject situation NOT as an active shooter—despite 911 calls from inside reporting shots fired @SpectrumNews1TX

    — Alex Stockwell (@alexrstockwell) May 27, 2022

And

    On 40 minute delay in police engaging the suspect inside Robb Elementary School, officials say, "a decision was made that this was a barricaded subject…there was time to retrieve the keys."

    "From the benefit of hindsight…it was the wrong decision." https://t.co/q812K5OQTv pic.twitter.com/59SMt32ElZ

    — ABC News (@ABC) May 27, 2022

And

    DEVELOPING: The tactical team that eventually killed the Uvalde gunman arrived at the school far earlier than previously known, but was told to hold back and not go in by local police, according to two officials familiar with the response

    w/ @esullivannythttps://t.co/JnazQb3998

    — J. David Goodman (@jdavidgoodman) May 27, 2022

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/05/27/texas-dps-door-used-by-shooter-was-propped-open-by-a-teacher-says-on-site-commander-made-the-wrong-decision/

Me right now

https://i.imgflip.com/bjh31.jpg

[Jim147]

That's an LEO circle jerk.

[Perd Hapley]

Fortunately, our leaders know exactly how to fix this horrible problem with police training and procedures: ban body armor and guns, so the only people with body armor and guns will have all the body armor and guns they need, for the dangerous job of arresting disarmed, unarmored parents.

[WLJ]

Washington Post has got Daniel Defense now.


They donate to republicans!
The horror!


‘Who WRITES this sh*t?!’ WaPo BREAKING big story about maker of rifle used in Uvalde donating to Republicans *GASP* does NOT go well
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/05/27/who-writes-this-sht-wapo-breaking-big-story-about-maker-of-rifle-used-in-uvalde-donating-to-republicans-gasp-does-not-go-well/

[Hawkmoon]

Looking at aerial views and some crude sketches of the school plan I have seen on-line, it strikes me that an armed assault through the classroom door wasn't even necessary. This school more than likely had windows, and it's a one-story building. Set up a sniper team where they can get a view of the bad actor. Three-person team. When the designated shooter has a shot, two others fire (shotguns?) to break the glass, followed by the designated shooter taking out the bad actor.

If the windows are small and the bad actor is pacing around -- set up multiple teams, from different vantage points.

If the SEALS could take out three Somali pirates shooting at a bobbing lifeboat from the deck of a ship at sea, a police sniper should be able to take out a teen-age punk at a distance of probably 50 yards or less.

[Perd Hapley]

Looking at aerial views and some crude sketches of the school plan I have seen on-line, it strikes me that an armed assault through the classroom door wasn't even necessary. This school more than likely had windows, and it's a one-story building. Set up a sniper team where they can get a view of the bad actor. Three-person team. When the designated shooter has a shot, two others fire (shotguns?) to break the glass, followed by the designated shooter taking out the bad actor.

If the windows are small and the bad actor is pacing around -- set up multiple teams, from different vantage points.

If the SEALS could take out three Somali pirates shooting at a bobbing lifeboat from the deck of a ship at sea, a police sniper should be able to take out a teen-age punk at a distance of probably 50 yards or less.

I guess the first problem with all of that is there were children in the room. The second is that there may have been blinds or shades down. Also, firing shotguns (at long range) into a room with children inside. Also, wouldn't the shotgun blasts and breaking glass induce the bad guy to take cover, possibly behind one of those children that (I may have already mentioned) were in the room being fired into?

Lastly, a lot of children could be laid waste while getting this team in place. (There were children in that room.)

[Brad Johnson]

Gov Abbott says he was mislead and "is livid".

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/greg-abbott-texas-uvalde-shooting/

Talked to a friend who's brother works in the state capital. He says that "livid" is a laughable understatement. Apparently Hizzoner the Gov is preparing to go full-on bitch slap mode with a few folks.

Brad

[AZRedhawk44]

Gov Abbott says he was mislead and "is livid".

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/greg-abbott-texas-uvalde-shooting/

Talked to a friend who's brother works in the state capital. He says that "livid" is a laughable understatement. Apparently Hizzoner the Gov is preparing to go full-on bitch slap mode with a few folks.

Brad

It was a very un-Texan response to a threat to Texan children.  Something I'd expect from an Oregon PD. 

[French G.]

Even if all the shooting was done how many children could have been saved if an immediate response allowed quicker trauma care? And it should have been immediate the events outside of the school clearly indicated a big problem.

[MechAg94]

Even if all the shooting was done how many children could have been saved if an immediate response allowed quicker trauma care? And it should have been immediate the events outside of the school clearly indicated a big problem.

Yep.  Looks like there were no lessons learned from the Florida Parkland murders both with their security and with the police response.

[WLJ]

An anonymous donor donor is covering funeral costs

    Greg Abbott says the state is offering free mental health care services and an anonymous donor has provided $175,000 to cover funeral costs.

    Announces a One Star Foundation fund collecting donations for victims and their families to cover expenses going forward

    — Dan Carson (@TheDoctorCarson) May 27, 2022

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/05/27/gov-greg-abbott-says-he-was-misled-by-law-enforcement-officials-bonus-deleted-tweet-from-rex-chapman/

[Hawkmoon]

Gov Abbott says he was mislead and "is livid".

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/greg-abbott-texas-uvalde-shooting/

Another article from the same publication:
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-teachers/

“People who have never taught before, make policies that affect every moment of my day, she said. “Right now, that’s really what cuts me the deepest.”

Not to seem unsympathetic, but it wasn't a person who had never taught before who left the door open for the shooter to walk in. It was a teacher -- one of your own.

[HankB]

Another article from the same publication:
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-teachers/

Not to seem unsympathetic, but it wasn't a person who had never taught before who left the door open for the shooter to walk in. It was a teacher -- one of your own.

There should be dire legal consequences for that teacher who left the door open.

And based on what's come out in the last 24 hours, there are a bunch of LEOs who at a bare minimum should never, ever, be allowed to carry a badge again.

[WLJ]

So much for Schumer saying no gun bills
Lying sack of *expletive deleted*it
Shocked? - No
Disappointed? - Yes

Chuck Schumer To Schedule Universal Background Check & Registry Vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7O6L5VFxb8

[Perd Hapley]

An anonymous donor donor is covering funeral costs
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/05/27/gov-greg-abbott-says-he-was-misled-by-law-enforcement-officials-bonus-deleted-tweet-from-rex-chapman/

This Rex Chapman guy - I'm sure the grieving families are not at all worried about paying for funerals and travel expenses, and just want the governor to start working on gun laws that won't bring back the dead, and wouldn't even go into effect anytime soon (as if he could even get such laws in Texas).

[WLJ]

It's not gun control it's gun safely

[Jim147]

This is my safety 👍.