Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting

[WLJ]

Harris calling calling for a ban
Shocker

[MechAg94]

Time to sell a couple of handguns and buy a Ruger Mini-14 (and maybe a Mini-30 while I'm at it).

Are the newer Mini-14s any less inaccurate than the old ones?

If you do, try to set aside extra for the A-Team folding stock.   
https://shopruger.com/Ruger-Mini-14-A-TM-Folding-Stock/productinfo/13006/

Not a bad idea, but there is no guarantee any legal action will exclude them.  I guess if you keep some 5 or 10 round mags, it may not draw attention.

I wouldn't mind getting on with a threaded barrel, but in general they cost quite a bit. 

[Hawkmoon]

If you do, try to set aside extra for the A-Team folding stock.   
https://shopruger.com/Ruger-Mini-14-A-TM-Folding-Stock/productinfo/13006/

Nope. If I get one, it will be a bare bones model with a wood stock, so it looks as traditional and un-scary (that's a technical term) as possible.

[zahc]

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/uzm4q0/texas_cops_are_cowards/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[Boomhauer]

Father of Uvalde Shooter: ‘I Don’t Want Them Calling Him a Monster… They Don’t Know Nothing’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/father-uvalde-shooter-dont-want-calling-monster-dont-know-nothing/

Some odd statements in this about not having enough clothes and him wearing the same pants every day.  Considering he bought an expensive AR prior to the shooting, he could afford a few pair of pants.  He may have been referring to something from years before. 

I think we ought to lynch the “parents” very publicly for those statements. If there is anything we are sick and tired of hearing it’s the “no no he was a good boy” *expletive deleted*it.

[MillCreek]

DD in the media:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/gun-in-texas-shooting-came-from-company-known-for-pushing-boundaries/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3to36bwmUkbzb3oiyw0fUesWymsNGMpD24M7_HpyImrrLyWJ3K-tOiybc#Echobox=1653787528

[WLJ]

DD in the media:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/gun-in-texas-shooting-came-from-company-known-for-pushing-boundaries/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3to36bwmUkbzb3oiyw0fUesWymsNGMpD24M7_HpyImrrLyWJ3K-tOiybc#Echobox=1653787528

I did a quick scan before my eyes started to glaze over but noticed they even manage to drag both race and Trump into it

[WLJ]

    There is NO constitutional right to own a gun. That was literally made up by 5 GOP Justices in 2008 decision of DC v Heller. We need to make overturning Heller a cause like the right made overturning Roe v Wade. My @MSNBC https://t.co/4K6mhc38bi

    — (((DeanObeidallah))) (@DeanObeidallah) May 28, 2022

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/05/29/you-stupid-or-somethin-dean-obeidallah-declares-theres-no-constitutional-right-to-own-a-gun-and-lol-weve-never-seen-so-much-backfire/

Yeah......About that

[Ben]

I did a quick scan before my eyes started to glaze over but noticed they even manage to drag both race and Trump into it

That's what I was gonna post. DD=Orange Man!!!!

The MSM articles coming out have some ridiculous *expletive deleted*it in them trying to make DD the devil, which of course they would do if it was a Sig, S&W, BCM, etc.

It's like a "six degrees of separation" game with them looking for connections to "bad stuff".

EDIT: I see at the end of the story they mention his other rifle, "A Smith & Wesson assault-style rifle". I haven't seen the DD called "assault-style", only "assault". I'm assuming the S&W is one of the M&P15 models.

[WLJ]

The conversation the libs and dems don't want to have

White: Focusing on Cultural Pathologies That Lead to Mass Shootings Reveals Difficult Truths…So Instead, We Talk About Guns
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/white-focusing-on-cultural-pathologies-that-lead-to-mass-shootings-reveals-difficult-truths-so-instead-we-talk-about-guns/

[Ben]

The conversation the libs and dems don't want to have

White: Focusing on Cultural Pathologies That Lead to Mass Shootings Reveals Difficult Truths…So Instead, We Talk About Guns
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/white-focusing-on-cultural-pathologies-that-lead-to-mass-shootings-reveals-difficult-truths-so-instead-we-talk-about-guns/

It's not just that they don't want to have the conversation. The far left actively attacks family structure. They literally push that a man, woman, and 2.5 kids is patriarchal, racist, and evil. They believe that families destroy society rather than cement it together. It takes a village.

[Bogie]

I wonder how hard it would be for someone with enough government power to research teens which have been "problems" around talking about school shootings, and then groom them and provide them weapons? One would think that there would be leaks, unless, of course, there are enough true believers in the end game, and any tactic to achieve it is good, involved...
 
But that's crazy talk.

[Hawkmoon]

It's not just that they don't want to have the conversation. The far left actively attacks family structure. They literally push that a man, woman, and 2.5 kids is patriarchal, racist, and evil. They believe that families destroy society rather than cement it together. It takes a village.

Well, the village is obviously failing to do its job.

[WLJ]

Well, the village is obviously failing to do its job.

Or is it?
First steps are usually infiltrate then disrupt from within the society you wish to over throw.

[Hawkmoon]

Or is it?
First steps are usually infiltrate then disrupt from within the society you wish to over throw.

Different job. (Point taken.)

[Hawkmoon]

Timeline: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-timeline-of-texas-school-shooting-includes-student-911-calls-as-officers-wait-outside/ar-AAXOsLp

Disgraceful. They had police hunkered down in the hallway for AN HOUR while kids were dying in the classroom.

[WLJ]

Another attempt at trying to turn the police response into a race issue

No WORDS: Jonathan Turley SHREDS blue-check prof asking if Uvalde children died because police didn’t give a damn about a ‘predominately brown’ school
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/05/29/no-words-jonathan-turley-shreds-blue-check-prof-asking-if-uvalde-children-died-because-police-didnt-give-a-damn-about-a-predominately-brown-school/

[Ben]

Timeline: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-timeline-of-texas-school-shooting-includes-student-911-calls-as-officers-wait-outside/ar-AAXOsLp

Disgraceful. They had police hunkered down in the hallway for AN HOUR while kids were dying in the classroom.

I was willing to give some benefit of doubt given that a suspected hostage/barricaded subject situation has different ROEs than an active shooter situation. But with cops right outside the door (some reports had me thinking cops were outside the school, rather than outside the classroom) hearing gunfire, and constant 911 calls coming from the classroom, it makes it hard to give that benefit of the doubt. More information keeps coming in, though.

I didn't see any of the 911 calls from the transcript specifically say, "he's shooting us" or similar. They all said "send help". Are there any transcripts where the students/teachers actually said, "he's killing us" on the 911 calls? That would be pretty damning.

[MillCreek]

Has anyone seen anything yet about the first lawsuits being filed?

[RocketMan]

Leaving this additional information from Breitbart here.  Cannot attest to its veracity.

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2022/05/26/exclusive-police-initially-lacked-ballistic-shield-needed-to-reach-barricaded-texas-school-shooter/

[Hawkmoon]

Leaving this additional information from Breitbart here.  Cannot attest to its veracity.

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2022/05/26/exclusive-police-initially-lacked-ballistic-shield-needed-to-reach-barricaded-texas-school-shooter/

Immaterial. Ever since Columbine (1999) the training has been that the first officer on the scene of a school shooter goes in and engages the shooter. Here they had 19 officers inside the building, and they waited for a HOUR before going in. And they only went in at that time because the Border Patrol guys ignored the school's police chief and went without his approval.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10862769/Federal-agents-DEFIED-Uvalde-police-chiefs-instructions-not-enter-school.html

Disgusting display of police cowardice.

There was a police lieutenant who justified their not going in by saying, "They might have gotten shot." Yes, they might. That's what they signed on for when they pinned on the badge. Every single one of them who held back because they might have gotten shot needs to find another line of work.

The anonymous officer cited in RocketMan's link is nothing but a cry baby. Everything he said was just excuses for not doing their job. The Uvalde school district held an active shooter drill just two months ago. They knew what they were supposed to do ... and when the chips were down, they froze..

[WLJ]

Mini-14 is banned in Canada

From 2020
Trudeau announces ban on 1,500 types of 'assault-style' firearms — effective immediately
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-gun-control-measures-ban-1.5552131?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

[RoadKingLarry]

Immaterial. Ever since Columbine (1999) the training has been that the first officer on the scene of a school shooter goes in and engages the shooter. Here they had 19 officers inside the building, and they waited for a HOUR before going in. And they only went in at that time because the Border Patrol guys ignored the school's police chief and went without his approval.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10862769/Federal-agents-DEFIED-Uvalde-police-chiefs-instructions-not-enter-school.html

Disgusting display of police cowardice.

There was a police lieutenant who justified their not going in by saying, "They might have gotten shot." Yes, they might. That's what they signed on for when they pinned on the badge. Every single one of them who held back because they might have gotten shot needs to find another line of work.

The anonymous officer cited in RocketMan's link is nothing but a cry baby. Everything he said was just excuses for not doing their job. The Uvalde school district held an active shooter drill just two months ago. They knew what they were supposed to do ... and when the chips were down, they froze..

The more cop CYA and the more reports we get about the actual timeline of events and the actions of the cops on the scene the worse it looks.\
I WANT to be supportive of police. I find that to be increasingly more difficult to do.

[zxcvbob]

Immaterial. Ever since Columbine (1999) the training has been that the first officer on the scene of a school shooter goes in and engages the shooter. Here they had 19 officers inside the building, and they waited for a HOUR before going in. And they only went in at that time because the Border Patrol guys ignored the school's police chief and went without his approval.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10862769/Federal-agents-DEFIED-Uvalde-police-chiefs-instructions-not-enter-school.html

Disgusting display of police cowardice.

There was a police lieutenant who justified their not going in by saying, "They might have gotten shot." Yes, they might. That's what they signed on for when they pinned on the badge. Every single one of them who held back because they might have gotten shot needs to find another line of work.

The anonymous officer cited in RocketMan's link is nothing but a cry baby. Everything he said was just excuses for not doing their job. The Uvalde school district held an active shooter drill just two months ago. They knew what they were supposed to do ... and when the chips were down, they froze..

No, they need to eat their guns.   

[kgbsquirrel]

No, they need to eat their guns.   

Spicy take, but I can't really say you're wrong.