Illegal immigrants there, not here

[K Frame]

I don't know a ton about them. Of the three cousins I talk to regularly, two of them are all in (and also big Trump fans) and the other one is Green party. From what I get from the two that like the party, it's the kraut equivalent (for their political structure) of a cross between MAGA and the Tea Party.

Ah, that's the party that my State Department friend is screeching about being 100% NAZI! The NAZIS are going to take over Germany again and this time Trump will JOIN WITH THEM!!!!!

[Ben]

Ah, that's the party that my State Department friend is screeching about being 100% NAZI! The NAZIS are going to take over Germany again and this time Trump will JOIN WITH THEM!!!!!

The commies in Germany call them nazis too, mostly because of their immigration stance. One of AFD's biggest issues, similar to what we're doing now, is getting control of illegal (and in many cases - thanks Merkel - legal) immigration of people who hate Germany. Also speaking out about the German political culture that tries to blame immigrant rape gangs on German women.

[Ben]

"I'm Aztec, MFer! Don't mess with me or I'll kill your kids!".

The above is in the video.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/woman-takes-down-us-flag-replaces-mexican-flag-california-park-this-mexican-land

[Ron]

The USA has been funding the illegal invasion of illegal aliens of all the west, that is coming to an end under President Trump.

Whatever intel agency is behind the Trump train they have my respect.

It's obviously not the CIA or FBI.

https://x.com/Mick_O_Keeffe/status/1887847250979602665

Trumps freeze on foreign aid has hit the Jesuit Refugee Service, one of the biggest players in mass immigration in Ireland/EU.

Yesterday they announced that all of their work across the globe has been stopped!

JRS Ireland is the group that was providing the tents for migrant tent city in Dublin. They assist migrants entering Ireland and they work on their behalf when they get here.

[WLJ]

[Ben]

A year ago I was assured by the smartest President we've ever had that this was impossible for a President to do without Congress.

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2025/02/21/border-agents-now-outnumber-illegal-immigrants-crossing-n2408730

[Ben]

Looks like the kraut elections went okay, but not great, mostly because of the immigration issue and the CDU (Merkel's party) being soft on it. I'm just telegramming with a cousin right now, and he's not super thrilled. CDU is better than say, the greens, but they are apparently the "warmonger" party there, sort of like the Liz Cheney Republicans here. He said they are hoping for a fail from the CDU and are pretty sure that would mean AfD will take the #1 spot in the next elections.

I'm kinda cracking up at the US MSM take. I'm seeing a lot of focus regarding the new guy saying he doesn't want to deal with the US anymore, and how that's a dig at Trump. What he actually said before the translation was that Germany needs to take care of itself more and not rely or partner with the US or others as much. Which is pretty much what Trump has said since the 1.0 phase: That countries should each look out for themselves first, just like the US should.

[WLJ]

"It was an accident"
Yeah, I guess it was also an accident they blocked and even prosecuted anyone trying to secure it.

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
75% of Democrats think Biden left the border open accidentally and not deliberately.

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1894772217293963626

[Angel Eyes]

Meanwhile, in Ireland ...

https://x.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1894811646553694630

[WLJ]

Someone worried?

Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
🚨BREAKING: AOC sends a letter to AG Pam Bondi asking if she is under investigation for giving advice to criminal aliens on how to evade ICE.

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1895519590329041235

[Angel Eyes]

(I swear Moore is looking more like a fat middle-aged woman every passing year)

[De Selby]

I don’t understand the logic of deporting Mexicans. They’re just returning to their ancestral homeland, which they’ve had a connection to for thousands of years and which their legends say is promised to them. They were only ejected by invaders, so they have a legitimate claim to return and call the land theirs.

We’re all good with that right?

[JTHunter]

I don’t understand the logic of deporting Mexicans. They’re just returning to their ancestral homeland, which they’ve had a connection to for thousands of years and which their legends say is promised to them. They were only ejected by invaders, so they have a legitimate claim to return and call the land theirs.

We’re all good with that right?

In a word, NO.
The United States is NOT their "ancestral homeland" because of the number of different tribes that evolved from those Bering Sea Land Bridge migrants.  The Aztecs, Incas, and Mayans came over 7,000 years AFTER the migrants came here and were already "south of the border" before they even became those 3 groups.

[dogmush]

He's trolling because he sides with Palestinians.

[De Selby]

He's trolling because he sides with Palestinians.

The double standard is obvious. Half the USA was in fact actually their country until 1848, and their continuous connection with the land goes back longer than the existence of any civilisation in the Middle East.

There are lots of Mexicans who don’t consider it at all wrong to enter the US on the basis that they didn’t agree to the border change. I don’t see how their view gets zero consideration when the views of European immigrants to Israel are taken as holy writ.

[Hawkmoon]

The double standard is obvious. Half the USA was in fact actually their country until 1848, and their continuous connection with the land goes back longer than the existence of any civilisation in the Middle East.

There are lots of Mexicans who don’t consider it at all wrong to enter the US on the basis that they didn’t agree to the border change. I don’t see how their view gets zero consideration when the views of European immigrants to Israel are taken as holy writ.

Who, exactly, is "their"? You are certainly not talking about the indigenous peoples who were enslaved by the Spanish conquistadores. The indigenous peoples were very tribal and territorial. Those who were in what is today Mexico before the Spanish invaders arrived did not live in any part of what is now the continental United States.

[dogmush]

The only thing similar is that both the Mexicans and the Palestinians lost wars, and with them control of land. 

[De Selby]

Who, exactly, is "their"? You are certainly not talking about the indigenous peoples who were enslaved by the Spanish conquistadores. The indigenous peoples were very tribal and territorial. Those who were in what is today Mexico before the Spanish invaders arrived did not live in any part of what is now the continental United States.

That is straight up historically wrong, and more importantly for the purposes of this comparison is not believed to be so by Mexicans.  Lots of people claim the Jews out of Europe are not historically connected to the Levantine as well.

[De Selby]

The only thing similar is that both the Mexicans and the Palestinians lost wars, and with them control of land.

So you don’t have any moral problem with them taking it back? Or fighting? The only question is whether they might eventually win?

The Mexicans are far more successful at ignoring your laws and seem to be content just taking jobs and buying houses. Demographically they’re likely to be a majority within the next generation or two in many states. 

So you’re right that it’s different - they aren’t coming in guns blazing to exterminate everyone in their homeland like the Israelis, they are content to just wait out the demography and ignore efforts by the state to expel them.

[Ron]

Immigration, rapid mass immigration especially, is a form of war. 

More than likely if we put US citizens of Mexican heritage that have been here for a few generations in charge of the border, it would look more like Trumps policy than the Democrats.

Slow demographic change vs rapid demographic change.

Many Mexican heritage US citizens now realize and feel they have skin in the game. Flooding the USA with the poorest and esp the criminal elements from among "their people" is something they oppose. They would prefer the brightest and best be pursued instead, with accommodation for seasonal workers.

Unfortunately, the Mexican people are pawns in this geopolitical game even more so than the US public.

[Hawkmoon]

Who, exactly, is "their"? You are certainly not talking about the indigenous peoples who were enslaved by the Spanish conquistadores. The indigenous peoples were very tribal and territorial. Those who were in what is today Mexico before the Spanish invaders arrived did not live in any part of what is now the continental United States.

That is straight up historically wrong, and more importantly for the purposes of this comparison is not believed to be so by Mexicans.

That is not historically wrong, it is historically correct. My late wife was from a South American country with a similar history of the conquistadores subjugating the indigenous peoples when they arrived, and most of the indigenous groups in her country are still looked down on and treated like second- (or third-) class citizens. My wife's cousin is a professor in Mexico City and I'm quite certain that he will support me in this.

The fact that many Mexicans don't choose to believe something doesn't mean it's not so.

[Perd Hapley]

So you don’t have any moral problem with them taking it back? Or fighting? The only question is whether they might eventually win?

The Mexicans are far more successful at ignoring your laws and seem to be content just taking jobs and buying houses. Demographically they’re likely to be a majority within the next generation or two in many states. 

So you’re right that it’s different - they aren’t coming in guns blazing to exterminate everyone in their homeland like the Israelis, they are content to just wait out the demography and ignore efforts by the state to expel them.

The Great Replacement theory. So racist...

[WLJ]

Meanwhile

“It is not a criminal violation to enter the country illegally… It’s not a crime.”
- Rep Jasmine Crockett

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1898569579292426454

[Parker Dean]

Immigration, rapid mass immigration especially, is a form of war. 

More than likely if we put US citizens of Mexican heritage that have been here for a few generations in charge of the border, it would look more like Trumps policy than the Democrats.

Slow demographic change vs rapid demographic change.

Many Mexican heritage US citizens now realize and feel they have skin in the game. Flooding the USA with the poorest and esp the criminal elements from among "their people" is something they oppose. They would prefer the brightest and best be pursued instead, with accommodation for seasonal workers.

Unfortunately, the Mexican people are pawns in this geopolitical game even more so than the US public.

When I lived in Corpus most of my friend were Mexican-heritage Hispanics and if the subject of illegals came up they would say things along the lines of "**** those guys" and "keep that Mexico **** in Mexico. We came over here for a reason." being just two actually heard comments that stuck with me all this time. Such sentiments go along with your reasoning and they (we) are now in that age group that vote a lot more than we did back then.

[K Frame]

It's always amused me to do a thought experiment on what might happen if the United States suddenly returned "heritage Mexico" to Mexico.

Realistically, what does everyone think would happen?

Great and immediate prosperity for all Aztlanians AND Mexicans (which is nothing more than a wet dream legend in the minds of the 1970s Chicano militants that has NOTHING to do with actual reality)?

Well of course! Because the gringos would willingly hand over all of their property to the Aztlanians, who would immediate vastly improve conditions, making the whole of Mexico prosperous!

That's the prevailing "theory," at least. And it's an enormous crock of *expletive deleted*it.

The poor areas of the newly "liberated" Aztlan would get poorer, and the prosperous areas would quickly crumble as all of the infrastructure quickly decayed and all of the wealth that supported it was withdrawn to the now reduced United States and the flood of illegal immigrants would simply move to a different border location.