Vegas clerk stabs robber ( self defense video audio )

[WLJ]

And of course the lawyer is screeching they were unarmed.

Attorney Carolina Griffin who represents the teen who remained at the door said there was no indication any of the teens had weapons.  “…especially my client: no guns, no knives, nothing of the sort, but unfortunately, things happened the way that they did,” she said.

[230RN]

And of course the lawyer is screeching they were unarmed.

Immaterial.  At that level of aggressive behavior, unless you have x-ray vision or mind-reading capability, you must assume the worst.

As they say, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

And, dear Ms. Attorney, as Dirty Harry* once said,  "When a naked man is chasing a woman through a dark alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross."

Terry

*Inspector Harry Callahan, SFPD

[sumpnz]

We don;t know yet, but perhaps the shop owner could not have a gun.

He’s said in interviews that he’s going to get a gun after that experience.

[Bogie]

If you can reach their temple for a carefully planned blow, they can do bad things to you without all that careful planning.
 
I may buy some bear spray for the store. Wasp spray has a reputation, but it is sort of overblown.
 
Right now? There's a few tools around. Things like 1/2" breaker bars...

[Hawkmoon]

Right now? There's a few tools around. Things like 1/2" breaker bars...

Yeah. A 1/2" click-release torque wrench might be a bit longer, but using it as a club might upset the calibration.

[bedlamite]

Yeah. A 1/2" click-release torque wrench might be a bit longer, but using it as a club might upset the calibration.

It's still new and has a warranty.

[gunsmith]

If you can reach their temple for a carefully planned blow, they can do bad things to you without all that careful planning.
 
I may buy some bear spray for the store. Wasp spray has a reputation, but it is sort of overblown.
 
Right now? There's a few tools around. Things like 1/2" breaker bars...

Only use wasp spray if they are bugging you, actually - do not use it-illegal under federal law and you have many options available .
bear spray is a fog, it will fog up the entire store - use a streaming sort of pepper spray. bear spray is great for outdoors/wind going away from you.
I've gotten blowback using it, no fun. 

[Devonai]

If you can reach their temple for a carefully planned blow, they can do bad things to you without all that careful planning

Which is why a face-full of OC spray would be my first move.  I'm just saying that you can use a folding knife in more than one way.  If I feel threatened enough to deploy the blade, then I will, fully recognizing that I'm unambiguously escalating to lethal force.

[BobR]

Only use wasp spray if they are bugging you, actually - do not use it-illegal under federal law and you have many options available .
bear spray is a fog, it will fog up the entire store - use a streaming sort of pepper spray. bear spray is great for outdoors/wind going away from you.
I've gotten blowback using it, no fun.

I have had people sprayed with pepper spray by the police in the ER. They got right into their face and gave a squirt of the streaming type directly into the eyes. It usually calms the person down but you still would get the smell and minor effects of the spray throughout the ER. I would hate to see them use a fog in an enclosed space.

bob

[Hawkmoon]

...
bear spray is a fog, it will fog up the entire store - use a streaming sort of pepper spray. bear spray is great for outdoors/wind going away from you.
I've gotten blowback using it, no fun.

Actually, most bear sprays are a cone pattern, which is a hybrid between a stream and a fogger. You can't get a 35-foot range from a fogger.

https://www.fieldandstream.com/outdoor-gear/best-bear-sprays/

[gunsmith]

Actually, most bear sprays are a cone pattern, which is a hybrid between a stream and a fogger. You can't get a 35-foot range from a fogger.

https://www.fieldandstream.com/outdoor-gear/best-bear-sprays/

ah yes, you're quite correct, I couldn't articulate what I wanted to describe ... I used it a bunch when I lived in San Francisco...it really did look like a cone

[dogmush]

I can tell you from experience that if you cut loose with that hybrid cone spray in an enclosed space, everyone in there is out of the fight. An auto parts store may be big enough to not get everyone,  but my mom ND'd bear spray in our living room and it cleared the first floor of the house till the fog settled enough to go back in and clean up.

[K Frame]

Back when I worked for the gun store we had an idiot customer who let loose with a pepper spray in the store.

It wasn't a particularly powerful one or all that good, but it still made it quite unpleasant to be there for quite awhile.

I coughed so hard was coughing up blood because my throat was so irritated.