Mar-A-Lago raided and occupied by FBI

[WLJ]

    TRUMP: "ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS ASK" pic.twitter.com/RGfjbbmVTD

    — Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) August 12, 2022

    Trump says everything seized by the FBI had already been declassified and could have been taken whenever they wanted it. pic.twitter.com/Gf3WMbUUcU

    — Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) August 12, 2022

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/08/12/trump-statement-has-info-related-to-the-fbi-document-seizure-were-not-hearing-from-doj-or-media/

 

[Fly320s]

They got him this time, for sure. 

Not sure if sarcastic, but Trump is guilty of a ton of stuff.

[Ron]

Not sure if sarcastic, but Trump is guilty of a ton of stuff.

What is Trump guilty of? Granted, I sort of tuned out the last few months but if Trump is guilty of a ton of stuff I would think that would be news.

[Fly320s]

What is Trump guilty of? Granted, I sort of tuned out the last few months but if Trump is guilty of a ton of stuff I would think that would be news.

Pretty much everything he has been accused of.

The guy is a slime ball.  He was a slimy Democrat businessman long before he became a slimy republican president.  He lies, cheats, and steals his way through life.  There is almost nothing good about him.

Yet, for some strange reason, people here and all over the US think he can do no wrong.

If Biden or Clinton (either one) was going through the exact same FBI search and seizure that Trump is going through, this whole board would be screaming for their immediate incarceration. 

The guy is trash, yet may of you defend him.  Why?

[MechAg94]

Pretty much everything he has been accused of.

The guy is a slime ball.  He was a slimy Democrat businessman long before he became a slimy republican president.  He lies, cheats, and steals his way through life.  There is almost nothing good about him.

Yet, for some strange reason, people here and all over the US think he can do no wrong.

If Biden or Clinton (either one) was going through the exact same FBI search and seizure that Trump is going through, this whole board would be screaming for their immediate incarceration. 

The guy is trash, yet may of you defend him.  Why?

Maybe because of statements like that (bold) which is such an exaggeration that you might think Trump said it.  He has been accused of quite a bit of false stuff.  At least keep it to things that can be proven instead of making general statements that mean nothing.  Makes you sound like a politician.   

[JN01]

Pretty much everything he has been accused of.

The guy is a slime ball.  He was a slimy Democrat businessman long before he became a slimy republican president.  He lies, cheats, and steals his way through life.  There is almost nothing good about him.

Yet, for some strange reason, people here and all over the US think he can do no wrong.

If Biden or Clinton (either one) was going through the exact same FBI search and seizure that Trump is going through, this whole board would be screaming for their immediate incarceration. 

The guy is trash, yet may of you defend him.  Why?

Slimy as he may be, his policies were over all a benefit to the country.  One could argue that no crimes should be unpunished, but that is not the case, Trump seems to be the one singled out. The Clintons and Bidens are thoroughly corrupt and have sold out the country to our enemies multiple times.  It doesn't matter how blatant or obvious the Democrats and their minions engage in criminal activity, they are almost never held accountable.  Hillary was found to have committed multiple violations of the espionage act and destroyed evidence, yet there were no consequences. Russiagate was nothing less than a failed coup attempt by the Dems with the help of the FBI.

Two impeachment attempts failed.  You would think that they would be able to find some actual evidence of something he has done, but they have not.

In the end, it's not really about justice anyway.  The Democrats don't give a crap about who committed what crime.  They see Trump as standing in the way of their totalitarian dreams, that cannot be tolerated. 

Trump is not someone I would have picked to be a Presidential candidate, I would prefer a DeSantis or Paul.  He may be a scumbag buffoon, but dammit, he's our scumbag.  If he can continue to block the leftists agenda I am willing to overlook his warts.  Eff the Democrats.

[HankB]

A question was asked, "What is he (Trump) guilty of?"

The detailed answer:

The guy is a slime ball . . .
He was a slimy Democrat businessman . . .
He lies, cheats, and steals his way through life . . . 
There is almost nothing good about him . . .
The guy is trash . . .

You forgot Russia collusion, the Steele dossier Hillary paid for, the Hunter Biden laptop full of disinformation he conspired with the Russians to plant, and the INSURRECTION! he fomented by advocating a "patriotic and peaceful" - his words - protest. (The country is lucky that INSURRECTION! didn't rise to the level of a PEACEFUL PROTEST.)

Trump may not be everything we'd like to see in a POTUS and his governance wasn't perfect (for example, he spent too much money even BEFORE covid) but most of his policies were better than what we had before or after - and here's an image that sums things up pretty well:

[Ben]

Trump may not be everything we'd like to see in a POTUS and his governance wasn't perfect (for example, he spent too much money even BEFORE covid) but most of his policies were better than what we had before or after - and here's an image that sums things up pretty well:

I agree. Whatever you think of Trump, and even if he is guilty of everything he's ever been accused of*, it's not about Trump, it's about us. They are making Trump a martyr representing government overreach and biased application of the law. Tulsi Gabbard says it well:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tulsi-gabbard-trump-raid-set-dangerous-new-course


*While he's likely as guilty of stuff as any politician is, every "world shattering" thing he has been accused of has turned into a nothingburger, or something setup by political opponents (Hi, Hillary!). It's not so much about Trump doing something wrong, but the application of the law against Trump vs anyone (or their families), D or R, in the DC political dynasty.

[Ben]

Vice President Kamala Harris said on Friday that she has "full confidence" in the Department of Justice after the search warrant that was used during the FBI raid of former President Trump's Florida residence was unsealed.

"Well, as a former prosecutor, I will tell you, I don't speak about anybody else's case, but I have full confidence that the Department of Justice will do with the facts and the law requires," Harris said in response to a reporter's question.

Oh brother. 

[RocketMan]

I think this will be the end of Trump's ambition to run in 2024.  To me, it's a foregone conclusion that he will be indicted, he will be tried in DC, and he will be convicted.  The trial being conducted in DC guarantees a conviction, regardless of his actual guilt.  Jail is a real possibility in my opinion.
The Democrats (and their minions in the Swamp) would not have taken such a self-destructive chance if they didn't have all of their (il)legal ducks in a row.  They likely decided on the charges and picked the judge for the trial even before the raid was conducted.  Evidence from the raid won't matter as they will just manufacture whatever is necessary to bring charges.

[HankB]

Merrick Garland just made a comment that in a search it was standard practice for the DOJ to " . . .  narrowly scope any search that is undertaken."

The "scope" of this search was anything dated from Jan 20, 2017 to Jan 20, 2021 . . . in other words, every single thing during the whole of Trump's presidency!

"Narrowly scope" my patootie.

I'm no fan of Mitch McConnell, but I'd like to buy Mitch a beer for keeping Merrick Garland off the Supreme Court - AG is awful, but having him on SCOTUS would have been ghastly.

[Ben]

I think this will be the end of Trump's ambition to run in 2024.  To me, it's a foregone conclusion that he will be indicted, he will be tried in DC, and he will be convicted.  The trial being conducted in DC guarantees a conviction, regardless of his actual guilt.  Jail is a real possibility in my opinion.
The Democrats (and their minions in the Swamp) would not have taken such a self-destructive chance if they didn't have all of their (il)legal ducks in a row.  They likely decided on the charges and picked the judge for the trial even before the raid was conducted.  Evidence from the raid won't matter as they will just manufacture whatever is necessary to bring charges.

Related to this, I saw the below comments by Bill Maher, and somewhat agree. A lot of people believe this will make Trump a shoe-in to run in 2024, and think it's a good thing. I'm kind of the opinion that Maher is stating here, that in many ways, it could sabotage the Republican primaries. This debacle makes me want to vote for Trump out of spite, but I still believe DeSantis (or by 2024, someone like DeSantis) would be a much better candidate and President. With tinfoil on, one might think that this whole raid was a DNC op.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-admits-fbi-raid-saving-trump-politically-fortune-finally-falling

[Ben]

The ever-unbiased Business Insider makes the point on being a martyr and "Trump is in the way". The article is a perfect example of wanting to try a shoplifter for murder:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-fbi-espionage-act-january6-search-warrant-federal-laws-broken-2022-8

[WLJ]

Making liberals cry is a capital offense. Actual murder is peanuts in comparison.

[Tuco]

... This debacle makes me want to vote for Trump out of spite...
https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-admits-fbi-raid-saving-trump-politically-fortune-finally-falling

Me too.
Many I know admitted to voting for Trump in '16 from base emotions. Rather than Hillary, I would have voted for my wife's drunken Aunt Shirley if she was in the (R) column. Same with 2020, but Uncle Joe the pedo clown was met less with hate and more with rolled eyes and sighs of exasperation.
Trump delivered. He rebuilt the Supreme Court. He unplugged enough liberal tears to fill Lake Mead, and gave an uncensored peek behind the wizard's curtain. 
DC has gone full Cptn. Caine with this latest boondoggle  Unless the DNC has an ace up their sleeve, I cant imagine DC's constant Trumptrot doing anything but alienating all but the leftmost voters.

[Ben]

Trump delivered. He rebuilt the Supreme Court. He unplugged enough liberal tears to fill Lake Mead, and gave an uncensored peek behind the wizard's curtain. 

Exactly. They may all be crooks of one kind or another, and if Trump lost 100 points with me from Twitter and even illegal behavior, he gained 1,000,000 points with me for his SC and judicial appointments, as well as, as you said, pulling aside the curtain.

[French G.]

I was of the opinion that Trump was overdone and voting for him a third time would be contributing to more strife than solutions in the country. Now? I'm back to Gingrich's 94 takeover was a polite request delivered on then squandered, the Tea Party was asking nicely, Trump was a warning.

[Northwoods]

Trump is a boor, a bully, and a narcissist.  That doesn’t make him guilty of any of the crimes he’s been accused of. 

Given they didn’t provide the warrant until later, demanded no witnesses to the search, and that security cameras be turned off during the raid (unclear thus far if they were) I fully expect them to plant/manufacture evidence to convict.  He’d get anything overturned by SCOTUS, but the odd of that happening in time for the election are very slim.  Trump would basically have to appeal the admission of evidence straight to SCOTUS before the trial was even over for that to be even remotely possible.  And they would reject for lack of standing.  Dems will do everything they can to run any trial during primary season with conviction and immediate execution of sentence (not implying death penalty, just start of imprisonment) so even if he won the primary he can’t campaign.  Even if SCOTUS took it as an immediate emergency appeal it’s doubtful they could complete the case before the election.

[MechAg94]

Trump is a boor, a bully, and a narcissist.  That doesn’t make him guilty of any of the crimes he’s been accused of. 

Given they didn’t provide the warrant until later, demanded no witnesses to the search, and that security cameras be turned off during the raid (unclear thus far if they were) I fully expect them to plant/manufacture evidence to convict.  He’d get anything overturned by SCOTUS, but the odd of that happening in time for the election are very slim.  Trump would basically have to appeal the admission of evidence straight to SCOTUS before the trial was even over for that to be even remotely possible.  And they would reject for lack of standing.  Dems will do everything they can to run any trial during primary season with conviction and immediate execution of sentence (not implying death penalty, just start of imprisonment) so even if he won the primary he can’t campaign.  Even if SCOTUS took it as an immediate emergency appeal it’s doubtful they could complete the case before the election.

SCOTUS has done things pretty quickly before if there was a national interest.  The 2000 election issues in Florida was decided in days.  Not the same thing, just an example.

The assumption I am hearing is that the establishment will have all their ducks in a row on this and Trump won't be able to defend himself.  Given all the events over the last 6 years, IMO, the people involved in this stuff have never had all their ducks in a row and I don't think this will be the first time they do.  As always, we will see. 

[Ben]

Another reason, despite his personality, that people are rallying around Trump and against the establishment.

HE SCRATCHED A FLOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/08/13/newly-released-government-documents-show-donald-trump-scratched-the-floor-of-the-lincoln-memorial-in-2020/

They keep giving him victim status that ordinary Americans rally around him for. Not because he's Trump, but because we see these attacks against us every day.

[WLJ]

And I'm sure after millions of tourists not a single one of those scratches on the floor was there before Trump

[WLJ]

Amazing what these idiots will believe

    BREAKING: Donald Trump is fundraising off the FBI search of his home by sending out the “nuclear codes.”

    Let me make this clear: If you send that man even one penny you are not a patriot. You are a traitor.

    — Jon Cooper (@joncoopertweets) August 12, 2022

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/08/13/fact-check-donald-trump-did-not-send-out-a-fundraising-email-containing-the-nuke-codes/

[Ben]

Amazing what these idiots will believe
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/08/13/fact-check-donald-trump-did-not-send-out-a-fundraising-email-containing-the-nuke-codes/

I don't think this person believed they were real codes, even though she appears to have one of the worst cases of TDS that I have ever seen. What she does appear to be doing is getting mad at a Trump fundraising email (that turned out to be fake) doing the same thing Hillary Clinton does with her "but her emails" fundraising merch.

Just more lefty hypocrisy in action.

[Jim147]

The TDS is at an all time high. I don't even like the guy but I've started defending him just to hear the rrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeee Trump.

The next one you hear screaming tell them that Obama signed an EO making the President and Vice President exempt from classified records law. It's like asking a climate green about building more nuclear and fixing the grid so we are not sitting in the dark when everyone plugs in their electric car.

[Boomhauer]

Pretty much everything he has been accused of.

The guy is a slime ball.  He was a slimy Democrat businessman long before he became a slimy republican president.  He lies, cheats, and steals his way through life.  There is almost nothing good about him.

Yet, for some strange reason, people here and all over the US think he can do no wrong.

If Biden or Clinton (either one) was going through the exact same FBI search and seizure that Trump is going through, this whole board would be screaming for their immediate incarceration. 

The guy is trash, yet may of you defend him.  Why?

Because under him my taxes decreased, my pay went up significantly and the Democrats have been screaming for what, 7 years now because of him.

I don’t give a *expletive deleted*ck about him being a slimeball, but I care DEEPLY about my bank account. The guy after him has *expletive deleted*ed up ALL the progress I made under Trump. I am now effectively washed back 6 years of raises with the inflation, my 401K is dropping like a v-tail Bonanza full of doctors, and the of course Biden is ever conspiring to do more damage to my life.